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A fact from Russian ship Dmitry appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 August 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the 1885 wreck of the cargo ship Dmitry was the inspiration for the arrival of Count Dracula in England in Bram Stoker's 1897 novel?

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The result was: promoted by BorgQueen talk 11:20, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The wreck of the Dmitry

... that the 1885 wreck of the cargo ship Dmitry (pictured) was the inspiration for the arrival of Count Dracula in England in Bram Stoker's 1897 novel?

Source: "Stoker was inspired by the shipwreck of a Russian schooner, the Dmitry, which was wrecked in a storm in October 1885 on the sands just below St Mary’s Churchyard and Whitby Abbey. In Stoker’s imagination, the ship is renamed the Demeter and carries Dracula and his coffins of Transylvanian soil to Whitby." from: "How did a Yorkshire seaside town inspire one of Britain's most famous novels?". Hull University. 23 November 2021. Retrieved 6 August 2024.

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mikaella Moshe

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 863 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 14:54, 7 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 11:16, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- The hook is verified for use without the image.
  Dumelow (talk · contribs), should the article be titled Dmitry (ship) instead of Russian ship Dmitry? This would use "parenthetical disambiguation" as discussed at Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Naming the specific topic articles.
  The image, File:Frank Meadow Sutcliffe The Wreck of the Dmitry (cropped).png, lists the source as https://www.reddit.com/r/ColorizedHistory/comments/9xwiyv/the_wreck_of_the_dimitry_of_narva_which_was_the/. Reddit is not a reliable source. Is there an original source for this image to verify it? The subreddit is for "colorized" images of black-and-white photos. According to Public Domain Trouble Spots from Stanford Libraries:
  
  Modifications to a public domain work may be protected by copyright and cannot be used without permission. ... Color has been added to the black-and-white public domain film God's Little Acre. This colorization process is copyrightable. Therefore, the colorized version of God's Little Acre cannot be copied without permission.
  Based on this, I don't think the colorized image can be used as it is copyrighted. If the original black-and-white image could be found and verified to be in the public domain, it could be used. Cunard (talk) 11:16, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review. No idea on the ship name, I guessed there might be other ships of that name but if not I guess it could be moved. The image I found on Commons, happy for it to run without anyway - Dumelow (talk) 12:25, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The image was colorised-I concur as above that colorised photos shouldn't be used because they give false impression and raise copyvio concerns. Blythwood (talk) 00:39, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Blythwood, the image already existed at Commons. If it's possibly still in copyright it should be nominated for deletion there. Cheers - Dumelow (talk) 10:57, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ignore me, I see you've already nominated. I couldn't find a copy on Commons of the original version, but there's a few versions coming up on Google Image search- Dumelow (talk) 10:59, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]