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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Lightburst (talk23:18, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Therapyisgood (talk). Self-nominated at 08:14, 17 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Rumrich spy case; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - Borderline, but okay
  • Other problems: No - Could this be made more concise?
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 14:15, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Therapyisgood and Smith609: I don't believe this article complies with rule D7, which says an article must be reasonably complete and give an adequate overview of the subject. Having read the article, I remain in the dark as to what the case was all about – e.g., what was Rumrich pleading guilty to? Espionage, desertion, impersonating Cordell Hull; all or none of the above? Why was he impersonating Cordell Hull? What's the connection between Rumrich, the hairdresser and the airplane mechanic? What were they convicted of? Did Rumrich go to jail too? And if so, why? There's a lot of basic information missing from this article, and I don't think it's ready for the main page in its current form. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 19:05, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
All excellent points, I'll be working on this in the coming days plus I need a QPQ. Therapyisgood (talk) 19:45, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Clarified Rumrich pleaded guilty to espionage with source. Therapyisgood (talk) 20:11, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Clarified that Hoffman served as a go-between between Rumrich's contact person in Germany and himself. Therapyisgood (talk) 20:16, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Clarified Rumrich served two years in NYC. Therapyisgood (talk) 20:43, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Clarified why Rumrich wanted the passports (to give to the German government). Therapyisgood (talk) 20:46, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Sojourner in the earth: how does it look now? Therapyisgood (talk) 02:01, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think it could still be expanded (eg. still no explanation of Voss's involvement) but the narrative is clearer now, so I'll withdraw my objection. Thanks. I'll let Smith609 or someone else give the final tick when you've provided the QPQ. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 06:57, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Smith609: QPQ done at Template:Did you know nominations/Lewis Manly. Therapyisgood (talk) 00:38, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.
Overall: BorgQueen (talk) 09:15, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]