Talk:Rump steak

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Edited on the grounds that rump steak is a common term used in some parts of the world, the United Kingdom, for example. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoneRifle (talk • contribs)

The British naming convention for the "rump" primal

Re: this edit, the British-English name for that set of muscles is indeed the "rump primal" but contrary to the edit summary it is basically the same set of muscles as are described in Loin#Loins in butchery. Admittedly, "loin primal" is American-English usage and makes a mildly confusing landing place for readers but at least the reader gets a smidge of new knowledge by following that link. The confusion can be cleared up by expanding and putting some global perspective into the target article.
The alternate target Beef#UK primal cuts takes the reader to a list that circular-redirects back to this same page. I think that will be much more frustrating and confusing for readers than the confusion over British/American English. Rossami (talk) 17:53, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't. Did you see the mess on the refdesk when some of us made the mistake of linking to Wikipedia articles to explain what types of steak would make a good meal? Explaining a British cut by linking to an American one of a different name just perpetuates the confusion and reinforces the US-centric state of our articles in this area. The UK primal cuts link has the advantage of a picture, which is clear and easy to understand. DuncanHill (talk) 18:00, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In this case, I don't think that we are "linking to an American" cut of meat. It's the same cut, just a different name. (At the primal level, anyway. I get the impression that there may be differences at sub-primal and below. It would be nice if we had a butcher trained in both traditions who could take the lead here.) The right answer is to fix the target so it's wording is not so US-centric. Adding the UK picture to that page makes sense. I've attempted a draft. It's not perfect but maybe it's a start. We've got to find something better than that circular link. Rossami (talk) 19:47, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]