A fact from Royce Williams appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 22 August 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that after U.S. Navy pilot Royce Williams engaged in a solo dogfight with seven Soviet MiG-15s during the Korean War, he was ordered never to tell anyone about it?
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I did a quick look-over and I share the concern you raised about having too few sources, though it seems like the story will gain a lot more momentum and have more independent reports as they try to push his medal through Congress. The larger issue right now is that the article as it stands mostly a close paraphrase of Kragen 2022. That's an issue that can often happen when you want to take a lot of content from one source in an accurate way, and do not have enough supporting sources to generalize the phrasing in your own words. To mitigate this, at least until more sources come about, you can focus on the content that is reported both in Kragen and the Times that you can then put in more general wording. To expand from there, I would suggest looking at adding one attributable fact at a time, rather than the newspaper's particular phrasing (which is important for the newspaper to convey tone, but it is also something that cannot be directly attributed in a citation so we can't really use it except with direct quotation). If you do want to take a direct quotation from Kragen, I don't think any of the quotes from Williams himself are particularly great for an encyclopedia article (news-features are a completely different style of writing); the only part that could be encyclopedic as a quotation in my opinion is where Lewandowski talks about the duration of the dogfight and that it's "beyond imagining".
One important source in the meantime for supplementary content is Seidov's book, if you can find a copy or translation. I imagine that dogfight is only one page at most, but that can be quite a lot if it's something interesting to quote from. SamuelRiv (talk) 04:19, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comments and edits, SamuelRiv. I did find one more article in a source that I consider reliable: Task and Purpose. I will rework the article to include their information, particularly about the battle itself, and I will cite them as an additional source. -- MelanieN (talk) 17:11, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I also found a book with some good quotes, and added that. I think it probably has enough factual references now. But I'd still like to see the standard things like infobox and medals added. -- MelanieN (talk) 00:09, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think I will change the article title to Royce Williams. His full name is given as E. Royce Williams, Jr., but sources mostly use just Royce Williams. -- MelanieN (talk) 23:08, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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I made the same mistake recently when I did a review. I think they have put the QPQ report in a position where it is easy to overlook. -- MelanieN (talk) 20:03, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Both main and ALT1 check out. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 08:39, 21 July 2022 (UTC)