Talk:Royal Armoured Corps
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Yeomanry Regiments
[edit]1. Inns of Court Regiment - Was this really a Yeomanry Regt in 1940?
According to www.regiments.org: The Inns of Court Regiment was an infantry unit from 15 Feb 1862 to 1909, when it became an Office Training Corps. In April 1932, it was reorganised as 2 Infantry Coys + a Cavalry Sqn (that was not yeomanry).
http://www.iccy.org.uk/devils-own.htm (Inns of Court / City Yeo site) says the infantry were mounted and that the Regt was designated as Cavalry.
From the Regt's wiki, the infantry companies were converted to lt tanks prewar.
I believe it takes more than just putting the men on horses to turn a unit into yeomanry. After all, mounted infantry (and their more modern counterparts motor infantry) are still infantry. If anyone can point me to a reliable source confirming the Regt's status it would be appreciated
2. Queen's Own Yorkshire Dragoons - Did they join the RAC in 1944?
I know the www.regiments.org list says 1944, but it is not 100% accurate. I have spent a considerable number of hours studying the site and have spotted a large number of, sometimes glaring, inconsistencies - it's a pity that a major pc failure wiped out my notes earlier this year.
Looking at www.regiments.org's entry for the Yorkshire Dragoons, it says the Regt became the 9th (motor) Btn, KOYLI in December 1940. There being no other entry until 1947, it is implied that the unit remained as motorised infantry, which is not yeomanry. Yet the KOYLI page, it says that the 9th Btn was created in 1941 and disappeared in 1942 - no indication as to whether the unit was disbanded or converted.
Now www.ordersofbattle.com says that the Dragoons became motor infantry in April 1942 but didn't become 9 / KOYLI until December 1942! Further, in June 1943, 9 Btn moved from 2 Armoured Bde to 7 Motor Bde, leaving in July when the Motor Bde converted to 18 Infantry (lorried) Bde. No info on what it was doing thereafter other than a note saying the Btn was in suspended animation in September 1944.
Unless someone can find a reliable reference saying that the Dragoons had converted back to an armoured unit, one has to assume they remained as infantry and therefore would not have joined the RAC!
3. I think the section concerning "RAC Regiments converted from infantry" should be moved above the preceeding section - which would be better titled "Other RAC Regiments"
Glevum (talk) 00:42, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Army 2020 new links
[edit]http://www.delhispearman.org.uk/news.htm The Royal Lancers
http://www.lightdragoons.org.uk/association-downloads.html?aa=e3f05fc2809a7ff8b78df889428128eb&cc=Spring%20Newsletter%202013.pdf&dd=76 Link for Light Dragoons to convert to light calvary
Phd8511 (talk) 21:36, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
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10 regular regiments - Household Cavalry Regiment
[edit]I removed the Household Cavalry Regiment from the list of active regiments as it is unclear if this regiment actually belongs there. On the British Army website the entry for the Royal Armoured Corps doesn't list the Household Cavalry Regiment as being part of the RAC, but instead lists the Household Cavalry, which is actually made up of the Life Guards and the Blues and Royals, which are two distinct regiments. Both of which form the Household Cavalry Regiment and the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment. Now th questions is: are the 9th and 10th regiment that should be in this list the Life Guards and the Blues and Royals, or should it be the Household Cavalry Regiment and the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment? The RAC page of the British Army says there are then regular regiments - as it is now there are only eight, meaning two are missing: which ones are the missing ones? I would assume they are the Life Guards and the Blues and Royals, which are the "senior regiment" respectively the "second-most senior regiment in the British Army". Does anyone know for sure? noclador (talk) 19:48, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- Spoke to a Foot Guards Officer - the HCR and HCMR are the 9th and 10th RAC regiments. noclador (talk) 14:27, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
- The answer actually Noclador is "either/or", depending on whether you're talking administratively (LG and RHG/D) or operationally - HCR and HCMR. Both the LG and the Blues and Royals still exist, but are, you could say, permanently task organised. I believe you will find the LG and RHG/D in the Army List, and references to HCR and HCMR would be just about limited to "CO HCR." Buckshot06 (talk) 08:04, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
FR ?
[edit]In subsection "Delivering Security in a Changing World (2004)" is stated "re-roled as an FR regiment". What is an FR regiment? From later parts i guess FR stands for Formation Reconnaissance, but can't be sure. Wether or not, an explanatory term should be used at first occurence of abbreviation. 88.69.147.35 (talk) 07:20, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
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