Talk:Rowan Gillespie
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[edit]I reluctantly removed the sources tag but will AGF but am not happy about they way that Pamela Gardiner is using what she thinks are references. Some links are to galleries that have no actual reference to the artist on the linked page, this is not a reference, it is just an external link listed as a source. Find a page that supports the statements you make in the text. The same applies to the links to 2 different sites that are sales pages for the book you use as a reference - they make no reference to the artist or his work and don't belong. I suggest that you also use the proper citation methods as already given on your user talk page by another editor, especially this one which shown how to ref books and websites properly. Just improve the references and add some more if possible. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 05:30, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- This page might be a useful link for you to use. You also should expand the lead, as I did previously but you reverted. Check out the lead section guidelines that tell you what it should contain and how long it should be—one short sentence is not enough to do justice to the subject. ww2censor (talk) 17:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yes but surely the fact that Rowan has a sculpture of two old guys in the middle of Sandyford must count for something? Sarah777 (talk) 21:13, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I've redone the refs and they do now all refer to pages that mention the Artist himself, or to the relevant specific pages of the biog, rather than just to the book itself! I only reverted your extension of the lead because it used the first line of the section on the film biog, which didn't make sense without it(the DVD of the film biog is great by the way!), I thought about putting his Grandfather in the lead, but I think that's 'background' ....will try to expand the lead. Pater and Ned sure do count for something! Thanks for the tip! Pamela Gardiner (talk) 21:34, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Assessment
[edit]Hi Pam - I think the article is about a "B" now. Importance is something that really depends on the subject, so Rowan will need to make a bigger splash in the pool to increase that. (The rating does not reflect on the merits of his work; just his notability. Regards Sarah777 (talk) 01:06, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps Sarah is more generous that I am, but, to me, it is marginal whether it really rates a B-class, but I won't change it. Thanks for the work. ww2censor (talk) 02:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks you guys. It was great fun learning from you... where next?Pamela Gardiner (talk) 22:32, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- Arragh Ww - I wouldn't say I'm more generous; how about clinical?? Anyway; what do you think it needs to make it a B in your judgement? Pam wants advice! Sarah777 (talk) 23:27, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
- sure do... havent got a clue what to do next, story of my life..! Pamela Gardiner (talk) 18:22, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- Arragh Ww - I wouldn't say I'm more generous; how about clinical?? Anyway; what do you think it needs to make it a B in your judgement? Pam wants advice! Sarah777 (talk) 23:27, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
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Vehicle for self-promotion
[edit]This whole item remains a blatantly commercial piece of self-promotion drawing from two sources: 1, the subject Gillespie himself; and 2, his biography brazenly described as written by "Gillespie's lifelong friend, the artist and publisher Roger Kohn". Yet even so, many evaluations are published here still unsupported by citation! – 217.155.200.241 (talk) 16:07, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
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