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Scot or Brit?

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My argument is that what he is well known as is a Britsh comedian, etc, SqueakBox 19:47, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mmmm... fair enough, although it is probably fair to say that he is just as well known as a Scottish actor. But why have you removed him from the Scottish subcats at the same time?--Mais oui! 20:02, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How about both cats for British and Scottish. I had no idea he was Scottish till you pointed it out with your edits, SqueakBox 20:05, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have no objection to that whatsoever, because they are both correct. The only problem is that Wikipedia frowns on entering people in both subcats AND supercats (or so I understand: I am a relative newbie). Until today I had actually tended to leave people in British people cats, while assigning them to English/Welsh/Scottish/Northern Ireland people cats, but today (dunno why I chose today) I decided to start deleting the supercat. And what happens? Immediately someone takes exception to the deletion of the supercat.
I think that the lesson here is: ignore Wikipedia convention as regards British people: it is probably wisest to enter most UK citizens under both British and English/Scottish/Welsh/NI people cats, unless a good reason not to.--Mais oui! 20:14, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, If you encounter opposition to both cats let me know, SqueakBox 20:19, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Actually, as I have just removed Billy Connelly from Category:British comedians (as he was already in Category:Scottish comedians), but he may well be a prime example of the "Categorise Twice" rule.--Mais oui! 20:31, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And Sean Connery is well known as an actor in *American* films! Ronnie's brother still runs a fish restaurant in Edinburgh/Leith. He's rumoured to be living back in the city. --MacRusgail 21:04, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really see a very strong case for having him in both, especially as it's a double-duplication over over categories. Scottish implies British, and it's not as if there's any suggestion he's actually Welsh, English, or Northern Irish. I don't think that not-everyone-would-have-realized is a pressing issue; so far as I know, it's not as if anyone disputes it, so it doesn't have NPOV implications. Alai 23:15, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I thought that the whole point of Wikipedia was to impart knowledge that "not-everyone-would-have-realized". So, in that sense, calling him Scottish rather than British in the opening sentence is adding additional information (as opposed to subtracting information, which Wikipedians generally frown upon), which the average reader may not have previously been aware of, which is surely the whole point of an encyclopaedia. N'est ce pas?
I'm adding the Scottish introductory descriptor back in.--Mais oui! 07:39, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
That is disingenuous to say the least. You must know as well as I do that what you are doing has political connotations, and it not simply about adding information. Abberley2 (talk) 21:43, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They can realise that by reading that he was born in Edinburgh. He has lived many years in Surrey, SqueakBox 16:02, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That causes someone to cease to be Scottish? On the lead paragraph I have no strong feelings. Would Brit in the lead, and Scot in the categories be a sensible compromise, or satisfy no-one? Alai 18:09, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

But was he Scottish in bald and simple terms to start with? His mother was English, and he is at least in part British by identity, so how come Wikipedia is passing him off as all Scottish? It looks like clear bias to me. Abberley2 (talk) 21:39, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can live with British in opening and cats Scottish, SqueakBox 18:10, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Good grief he's got a clear Scottish accent. Wassa matta wi' ya? Nothing wrong it declaring that he is a Scot. 19:20, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,1093850,00.html Alice Cooper states he doesn't play golf with Ronnie.

How about English? His mother was English, and he moved to England as soon as he was old enough to have a free choice in the matter. And he does not have a "clear Scottish accent". Abberley2 (talk) 21:35, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Brit' is a racial slur, a word popularised (if not invented) by the Irish Republican Army a well known terrorist parmilitaery organisation, funded by Americans —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.254.146.84 (talk) 14:14, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the Scot-centric bias by providing full information in the intro. Alex Middleton (talk) 12:38, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Song

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I am surprised that he recorded a single called "Fanny", given what that word means on his side of the pond. 70.20.141.199 01:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Desert Island Discs 21 October 2007

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I brief mention of "castoways" is listed in a table on Desert Island Discs: castaways' choices.

I have moved the following from the main page as it was rather long:

On 21st October 2007 Ronnie took part in the "Dessert Island Discs" on BBC Radio 4 his record choices were;
1. Change Partners Performer Fred Astaire Composer Irving Berlin CD Title Fred Astaire Sings… Track 1 Label MCA Rec No MCAD1552

2. By Cool Siloam’s Shady Rill Performer The Glasgow Orpheus Choir Composer Trad – arranged Roberton CD Title The Glasgow Orpheus Choir – 20 classic recordings Track 2 Label MOIDART MUSIC Rec No MOICD007

3. Walk Between Raindrops Performer Mel Tormé and the Marty Paich Dek-Tette Composer Donald Fagen CD Title Reunion Track 2 Label CONCORD JAZZ Rec No CCD4360

4. I’ll Be Seeing You Performer Danny La Rue Composer Kahal-Fain CD Title I Am What I Am Track 13 Label ELITE Rec No PMPCD 1201

5. Music Maestro Please Performer Ann Hart Composer Albie Wrubel-Herb Magidson CD Title Music Maestro Please/Will I Never Learn Track 2 Label PARLOPHONE Rec No R 5445

6. Overture to Candide Performer Original Broadway cast from 1956 Composer Leonard Bernstein CD Title Candide Track 1 Label SONY BROADWAY Rec No SK48017

7. I Like the Likes of You Performer Bobby Short Composer E Y Harburg & Vernon Duke CD Title 50 By Bobby Short Track 1 Label ATLANTIC Rec No 7817152

8. Look at That Face Performer Anthony Newley Composer Leslie Bricusse & Anthony Newley CD Title Another Trump in a Great Career Track Side 2 Label RCA Rec No RD 7737

His three items were;

Record: Music Maestro Please Book Untold Stories by Alan Bennett Luxury: A Hammock —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snowmanradio (talk • contribs) 14:12, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Still worthy of inclusion. Even non-musicians usually get favourite track, book choice and luxury item mentioned. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:09, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Date of birth

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Looks like an error in his date of birth. Just been on ITV saying he is approaching 80, not 84, and IMDB has him down as being born in 1930. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0179196/

Ok, changed already. Ignore/delete.

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A Grand Day Out

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Wasn't there somewhere in the seventies a funny television movie called A Grand Day Out with Ronnie Corbett and Ronnie Barker? (and several others). DannyCaes (talk) 20:29, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

1989's A Grand Day Out did not have them in the cast, will leave it with you to search for an earlier movie. . dave souza, talk 21:47, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Mmmmmm... it was not that one (from 1989). The version with the two Ronnies and many more well-known British television actors was from the mid seventies (probably from 1974, or 1975, or 1976). It was a very funny movie. At a certain moment a naughty person went to the dike to paint the eyepiece of a coastal telescope black (shoe polish), while one after the other tourist went to the telescope to take a look (to see certain magnified parts of the beach and the sea). None of those tourists immediately knew that the surroundings of their eyes look'd pitch black after looking through the apparatus (can't remember if it was a monocular or binocular telescope, and if each one of those tourists had one or two black eyes). DannyCaes (talk) 17:04, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think you're looking for By the Sea (1982 film). My favourite scene is where Ronnie breaks the chair outside the bathroom, a perfect bit of silent acting. Bob talk 15:11, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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