Talk:Ron Silliman

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Which Farm is being discussed in the article? It links to a disambig. page with 10 options, and I don't know which is correct.

It seems to be the one in San Francisco, according to some google searches. 151.197.169.59 02:09, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is referring to the community center in San Francisco that used to be at Army and Potrero. --Ron Silliman 03:41, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Debuting on August 29, 2002 to little fanfare and without expectations of an audience, Silliman's Blog received its 2,000,000th visit on January 19, 2009. Less than a full year later, on November 26, 2009, it received its 2,500,000th visit.

This sounds an awful lot like Silliman wrote it himself, doesn't it?

-- Doom (talk) 19:56, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Overuse of primary sources

The article is overly reliant on primary sources. It is not supposed to be quotes of Silliman's writing, especially of his blog, but should be relying on other sources writing about Silliman and his works, relation to poetry movements, etc. Interested editors will find some sources at the article Language poets.Parkwells (talk) 17:28, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bibliography

I have commenced a tidy-up of the Bibliography section using cite templates. Capitalization and punctuation follow standard cataloguing rules in AACR2 and RDA, as much as Wikipedia templates allow it. ISBNs and other persistent identifiers, where available, are commented out, but still available for reference. This is a work in progress; feel free to continue. Sunwin1960 (talk) 04:11, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

External links

Some things just grow during incremental edits and sometimes get out of hand. The "External links" section, one of the optional appendices, had 12 entries. Three seems to be an acceptable number and of course, everyone has their favorite to try to add for a forth.

None is needed for article promotion. Inclusion for a more numerous amount would depend on consensus.

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Links moved from article page for possible discussion per above.

Ron Silliman papers at UCSD
Ron Silliman on Poets.org Profile and poems.
Silliman profile at Modern American Poetry
Silliman's Blog His blog. Archived 2007-06-11 at the Wayback Machine
Silliman at UbuWEB, online books
Interview with The Argotist Online Archived 2017-04-03 at the Wayback Machine
"Torque" & The New Sentence Silliman discusses background & conception of his influential "manifesto" The New Sentence
“The New Sentence”: The original talk – given September 16, 1979 at the San Francisco Art Institute in Bob Perelman’s Talk Series
The Grand Piano website devoted to the 10 volumes of "Collective Autobiography" by 10 of the so-called "West Coast" group of Language poets, including Silliman, which began serial publication in November 2006.

This is a maintenance move (not part subject to BRD) as I am not familiar with the subject. -- Otr500 (talk) 01:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]