Talk:Richard and Elizabeth Uihlein

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This article is a hit piece

Why such a big section for political activities and hardly any mention of his biggest activity which is the growth of ULINE the business? Sorry but this entire article is a hit piece and makes Wikipedia look bad. The references are from hit piece opinion articles. Someone should clean up this bio, maybe make a section describing how he started ULINE and history of that company under his leadership. 107.194.133.235 (talk) 23:57, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can you point to anything faulty in the articles? Is it a hit piece to truthfully point out their extreme far-right activity? 45.72.186.90 (talk) 19:30, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Washington Post article

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/meet-the-little-known-big-fish-megadonor-setting-the-tone-for-gop-primary-races/2018/04/29/2e784d76-3215-11e8-94fa-32d48460b955_story.html
Meet the little-known ‘big fish’ megadonor setting the tone for GOP primary races
by Michelle Ye Hee Lee and Michael Scherer
Washington Post
April 29, 2018
Behind just about every divisive Senate Republican primary this year, an amiable Midwestern businessman is bankrolling the candidate who claims to be the most hard-charging, anti-establishment conservative in the race.
Richard Uihlein, a wealthy shipping-supplies magnate from Illinois who shuns the spotlight, has risen to become one of the most powerful — and disruptive — GOP donors in the country.
--Nbauman (talk) 05:07, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Heir

Heir to whom? Is David Vogel Uihlein Jr. and family related? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:13, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, right, Schlitz. Same family. Links in article, and their articles, please. Let's connect this.

Convenience links:

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:17, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alan West backing

Time? Wikipietime (talk) 14:04, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

NY Times content

An IP number and two recently created accounts (all of whom are probably the same user) keeps removing RS content about Uihlein financing anti-LGBT efforts in the US, and supporting hard-right candidates. This content should be restored ASAP. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 13:57, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The NY Times source is about bankrolling a school board candidate who fought a move allowing transgender students in girls’ locker rooms. The source is not about being anti-gay in general (not separated from this context of girls restrooms), as your modifications to the cited source make it sound. I have fixed the accuracy. Do not engage in edit warring to remove accuracy fixes. AccuracyFix (talk) 03:19, 3 September 2020 (UTC) BLOCKED SOCKPUPPET.[reply]

FYI, I have semi-protected the page for three days due to obvious and persistent sock-puppetry here. Neutrality^talk 14:37, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Edit by AccuracyFix looks like the best compromise to keep the content from NY Times while reducing risk of libel lawsuit for out of context quoting of source. User Neutrality why do you ~~strikethrough~~ AccuracyFix comment on this Talk page? I thought Wikipedia aims to reflect sources and not original opinion. 157.127.124.151 (talk) 02:38, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Information to be removed: Uihlein has bankrolled efforts against gay and transgender rights. Replace with: Uihlein bankrolled a school board candidate who fought a move allowing transgender students in girls’ locker rooms. Explanation of issue: The current sentence is out of context thus libel. The replacement sentence fairly reflects the original reference with context. References supporting change: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/07/us/politics/liz-dick-uihlein-republican-donors.html

Not done AccuracyFix is a sockpuppet. The New York Times piece is a news piece and not an "opinion." The NYT piece says that "Opposing gay and transgender rights was frequently a focus of his efforts" which exactly reflects the statement made in the article. And making veiled threats of libel here is not permitted here. Knock it off. Neutrality^talk 16:55, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with AccuracyFix. It is always better to be more precise, especially when dealing with a biography of a living person. CaveWriting (talk) 20:45, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Contentious additions

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Guardian: Outcry as super-rich Trump donor given permission to avoid Canada quarantine

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/18/trump-donor-liz-uihlein-canada-quarantine

John Cummings (talk) 10:26, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Has this been included anywhere? It is a company activity and could be included under the company page. SprinklerLover12 (talk) 19:46, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Forbes.com is a WP unreliable source

It is clear that the recent additions conflict with WP:BLPBALANCE WP:NPOV WP:BLPREMOVE WP:PUS. Furthermore, the new addition of Reference #8 doesn't belong; is an unreliable source:

WP:PUS Forbes.com is a paid contributor content farm and "must never be used as third-party citations on statements relating to living persons." CaveWriting (talk) 01:10, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The source was written by a Forbes staff member, not a contributor. See WP:FORBES and WP:FORBESCON. Woodroar (talk) 01:31, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

@Therequiembellishere: how does WP:BLPNAME apply to the infobox? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:18, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Separate Pages for Elizabeth and Richard

Hello everyone,

I am petitioning to create separate pages for both Richard and Elizabeth. The rational for this would be that they are both extremely influential as individuals and that there actions are fairly distinct. I have gone ahead and created a draft for the Elizabeth page and am beginning work on a page for Richard.

I believe that a shared page holds value for discussing their joint ventures, but that attempting to speak at length about both of them will end up being both messy and incomplete.

Draft:Elizabeth Uihlein SprinklerLover12 (talk) 00:17, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nearly all those sources discuss them together and so support the current merge. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:23, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest that there is a bias in what you're seeing now due to the fact that I have not begun on the Richard page. I'm hoping it becomes clearer as I finish that one as well.

To point out a few things that are distinct:

-Richard seems to have next to nothing to do with Elizabeth's intense involvement in Manitowish Waters, he has a summer home in Hayward, where he is much more involved, which I have a ton of sources for.

-Richard is heavily involved in running another company called Galectin Therapeutics, Elizabeth has not been involved with this at all.

-Elizabeth is involved in national politics to a degree, but most of the big big donations all seam to run through Richard and his infrastructure. A survey of articles discussing the donations will support this.

-They both have distinct philanthropy's

-From everything I've gathered, it seems to me that Elizabeth is much more involved in the day-to-day running of Uline than Richard. You see this in the fact that people mention her being in the office all the time, her letters in the catalogs, her responses to public comments, and her interviews.

Elizabeth is one of the most powerful business executives in the US, one of the richest people in the world, she's highly politically active, and we have a ton of information on her. It feels very old timey and sexist and dismissive to role her into an article where the talk about her feels like an after thought. SprinklerLover12 (talk) 16:07, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I do not appreciate you characterizing my actions as either sexist or dismissive. I commented on the sources. You bring up reasonable differences, but it's not at all clear to me that these differences would overwhelm this page. Truthfully with both the draft of Liz and also with recent additions to both this page and ULINE, I feel like we've entered "UNDUE" territory in the depth that topics are being covered. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:14, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize for any distress due to misunderstanding, that statement is intended to begin a line of questioning on how the practice of rolling together women with their male partners in news reporting and biography writing has been historically problematic and whether or not that is what we're seeing before us. It is not a statement on your individual actions. SprinklerLover12 (talk) 18:38, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adding section for involvement in local politics, primarily regarding activities in Manitowish waters

If you see my draft, there is a ton to talk about regarding Elizabeth and Manitowish waters -- she has an extraordinary amount of influence over the town in a saga going back almost thirty years now. It ties in tightly to their power in the Wisconsin legislature. It is highly publicized.

There is also a very interesting series of events where Richard attempted to have a floating bog nailed down in Hayward, which has a large amount of coverage.

https://archive.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/uihleins-plan-for-floating-bog-difficult-and-expensive-b99663817z1-367767561.html/ SprinklerLover12 (talk) 19:45, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]