Talk:Richard Henry Park

Richard Henry Park was one of the Art and architecture good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
October 28, 2020	Good article nominee	Listed
February 26, 2023	Good article reassessment	Delisted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on January 31, 2017.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that "Merchant Prince and Princely Merchant" John Plankinton built a mansion (pictured) as a wedding gift for his daughter Elizabeth, but she refused to live in it because her fiancé Richard Henry Park ran off with a dancer?

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ALT hooks with Park

@EdChem: I like your wording of ... that "Merchant Prince and Princely Merchant" John Plankinton built a mansion (pictured) as a wedding gift for his only daughter, Elizabeth, but she refused to live in it because her fiancé, Richard Henry Park, ran off with a dancer?" Would it be appropriate to make that ALT2c and strike all the other ALTs so there is no confusion for the promoter? --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:13, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Coldwell: I have been wondering about re-arranging the nomination to make it clearer, but I thought I'd leave it until we can make RHP bolded. On this expansion, it seems to me that we need to include:

basic biographical details
sections on major works
clarifications on his relationship with Plankinton
infobox?
Do away with the external links that belong as references by incorporating them

I'm glad to see you've made a start. Are there other areas we need to cover, in your view? EdChem (talk) 12:12, 24 January 2017 (UTC) PS: Oops on the edit summary I just used, mentioned wrong person! EdChem (talk) 12:13, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@EdChem: All the above sounds correct to me. I have done a few biographies as you can see in my list of Did You Knows. An infobox is a great idea. Question - how did you come up with 2500 as the amount needed to qualify? My first impression (from little voices in my head) is that ALT2c should be dropped in NOW and we should just go ahead and expand the article on a day-to-day basis. Perhaps we should make it NOW as ALT2c? I don't see that it hurts things, doing it this way = similar to what I have done in the past for biography expansions.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:45, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Coldwell: The pre-expansion (baseline version) is this, with 649 characters, so the required size is 5 × 649 = 3245, so the extra needed is 3245 − 649 = 2596 characters. However, I had already added 148 so it was down to 2448 needed when I said "about 2500". Given your concerns, I'll update the DYK nom. EdChem (talk) 13:20, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

O.K. Thanks for explanation.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:23, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@EdChem: How close are we to having Park submitted as BOLD and meeting all the DYK requirements?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:32, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- @Doug Coldwell: in characters, fairly close. In content, there's quite a bit I want to add. If I spend time on it over the next few hours, would you like to devote your time to other articles or no-wiki work, so we don't e.c. or add nearly identical content (as we did yesterday), and I'll ping you when I'm done? EdChem (talk) 22:38, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@EdChem: = Deal!!!!! I'll go watch President Trump on television - that's fun. --Doug Coldwell (talk)
- @Doug Coldwell: I try to avoid discussions of personal politics on Wikipedia, but I can honestly say that I can think of activities I would enjoy more than watching President Trump (or many other politicians) on television... EdChem (talk) 23:21, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Richard Henry Park/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 20:56, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Going to be reviewing for the GAN October 2020 Backlog Drive. MWright96 (talk) 20:56, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Lead

Wikilink Vice President of the United States

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:45, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"He did a sculpture of Milwaukee's first white settler and first mayor. He also created sculptures for the Chicago World's Fair of 1893." - consider merging these two sentences together

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:45, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Life and career

"Park was born February 17, 1838," - born on February

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:54, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"working as an assistant to Palmer[3] alongside other future sculptors Launt Thompson[4] and Charles Calverley.[5]" - commas will be need to be added before each of the citations

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:54, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"He moved to New York city to establish an independent career before moving to Florence, Italy around 1871." - the word in bold begins with a capital letter

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:46, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilink Milwaukee on the first mention
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:46, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Park's early work was in marble, later changing to the medium of bronze for natural sculptures, in line with the American trend for late nineteenth century sculptures." - sentence will need to be verified by a reliable source
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:46, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"he moved his studio to Chicago to get commissions in the sculptural programs for the Chicago World's Fair of 1893." - wikilink the text in bold to the appropriate article
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:46, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Park's apprentice and assistant (1891-1894)." - assistant from 1891 to 1894.
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:46, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilink Montana
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:46, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Remarkably, given his history with the family," - the word highlighted in bold is non-netural
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:46, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilink rotunda to [[Rotunda (architecture)}]
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:46, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"It has been suggested that Park's most enduring legacy may be his role as mentor and teacher to Lawrie." - suggested by whom?

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"He is best known for his Actor's Monument to Edgar Allan Poe (1884) in the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York city, and the Drake Fountain in Chicago (1892)." - sentence will require a reliable source to verify that it is correct

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also for the above sentence, the parentheses can be removed and the sentence be reworded accordingly

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:07, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Dimmick's view is confirmed by his obituary in the Chicago Tribune dated November 8, 1902, which states he died "at the "Battle Creek sanitarium." - sentence needs to be verified by a reliable source

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:07, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Chicago Tribune can be wikilinked

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Washington monument, 1885

"at a cost of around $20,000[23]" - a comma is missing before the citation

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:42, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"restorer Andrzej Dajnowski discovered major cracking in one of the legs " - what caused the cracking?

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:42, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Juneau Monument, 1887

"having been the area's first white settler and the first Mayor of the city." - the city's first Mayor.

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:09, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"The monument cost around $25,000 (equivalent to $641,000 in 2019)[24]" - a comma is missing before the citation

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:09, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"and depicts Juneau "clothed in the habit of the pioneer"[32]" - same issue as above

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:09, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Strong similarities have been noted between the sculpture's visage and that of Park's Washington statue." - noted by whom?

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:09, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

The hyphens in the number sections of References 3, 4, 5, 6 and 20 should be replaced by en dashes (–) per MOS:DASH

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:56, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Newspaper and web

askArt ""Richard Park (1832-1902)"" - the hyphen needs to be replaced by an en dash

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:01, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Be consistent in how Milwaukee Journal Sentinel is written; it should be either Milwaukee Journal Sentinel or The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:01, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Will put the review on hold to allow the nominator to address or query the points raised above. MWright96 (talk) 08:08, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Working Thanks for review. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:15, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@MWright96: All issues have been addressed. Can you take another look. Thanks. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:01, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Coldwell: Now promoting to GA class. MWright96 (talk) 19:53, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright contributor investigation and Good article reassessment

This article is part of Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/20210315 and the Good article (GA) drive to reassess and potentially delist over 200 GAs that might contain copyright and other problems. An AN discussion closed with consensus to delist this group of articles en masse, unless a reviewer opens an independent review and can vouch for/verify content of all sources. Please review Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/February 2023 for further information about the GA status of this article, the timeline and process for delisting, and suggestions for improvements. Questions or comments can be made at the project talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:36, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]