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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Richard Dawkins Award is awarded for publicly proclaiming "the values of secularism and rationalism, upholding scientific truth wherever it may lead"?

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The 2016 Richard Dawkins Award

~~... that the Richard Dawkins Award (pictured) is awarded broadly for publicly proclaiming "the values of secularism and rationalism"?~~ Source: Center for Inquiry:
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Neither Settler nor Native
- Comment: The DYK tool is not showing 5x expansion, but it did occur. April 5, 2022 version: 310 characters. current version: 1629 characters. (310 × 5 = 1550). – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 20:06, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by Kavyansh.Singh (talk). Self-nominated at 20:06, 5 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting award, on fine sources, a very substantial list with detail in the list part, so in case someone doubts the expansion, you could always get samples from there to the lead. No copyvio obvious. Hook: I think the sentence on which it is based has a plural subject and a singular verb. The hook works, and if you want I approve it. I'm not happy with "broadly", - when you quote you don't need that. From the quote, why not take the "scientific truth wherever it may lead"-part, much less commonplace? You could also introduce one recipient with an image, for an example. - I recently had a hook without image, where the same person had almost twice as many views within a hook with an image of someone else. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:02, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that the Richard Dawkins Award (pictured) is awarded for publicly proclaiming "the values of secularism and rationalism, upholding scientific truth wherever it may lead."?

@Gerda Arendt: Added ALT1 – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 07:13, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, and the crude image is licensed, and will attract. Please word the sentence in the article without a plural-singular clash, and "publicly proclaims" could go into the quote in the hook, otherwise it sounds a bit strange in fact language. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:38, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2: ... that the Richard Dawkins Award (pictured) is awarded to an individual who "publicly proclaims the values of secularism and rationalism, upholding scientific truth wherever it may lead."?

thank you, approving both. I'd probably say "person" instead of "individual". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:10, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Kavyansh.Singh and Gerda Arendt: Concerned about image copyright; i don't think the U.S. has the same levels of freedom of panorama given to Europe, and this is a picture of an American sculpture(?) not on public display. Is it possible that the design is owned by the Center for Inquiry? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 22:25, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]