Talk:Rhapsody (climb)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron talk 04:30, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Rhapsody follows the thin diagonal crack in the middle of the northwest face of Dumbarton Rock

• ... that when first climbed in 2006, Rhapsody became the first-ever E11-graded traditional rock climbing route?

• Source: https://www.climbing.com/news/mcclure-bags-third-ascent-of-rhapsody-e11-7a/

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Created by Aszx5000 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Aszx5000 (talk) 19:20, 2 June 2024 (UTC).

• Not really sure if this particular hook fact or wording is the best option here. It's really reliant on specialist information, specifically a grade of rock climbing that isn't even a universal or international one. My suggestion would be, if possible, to propose a hook that could be easily understood even by non-rock climbers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:18, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

How about ALT1: "... that when first climbed in 2006, Rhapsody was the hardest traditional climbing route in the world?", with sourcing here Last year he succeeded in making what is generally recognised as the world's hardest 'traditional' climb, Rhapsody, on Dumbarton Rock from the BBC, and Rhapsody is officially known as the world's hardest traditional rock climb from Telegraph. Aszx5000 (talk) 15:14, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

That's a much better hook. This is ready for a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:28, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: I am doing a GA review of this article. If passed, I would recommend passing the DYK hook as well. xq 11:42, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

48JCL, please note that the GA reviewer may not also review the DYK nomination. Different reviewers are required per DYK rules. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:18, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset: sorry, that is not what I meant for my comment to go for. I meant to say that a spotcheck was not needed as I did one in the GAR. 48JCL 13:49, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

48JCL, even so, that's still not appropriate. The DYK reviewer needs to do their own checking independent of the GA review, and should take nothing for granted by the fact that it achieved GA status or that some other reviewer approved parts of its review. There have been some GAs that ended up being delisted based on significant issues found by the subsequent DYK reviewer. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:44, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

• Full review needed now that new hook has been submitted. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:51, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

• Let's see...

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: It was nominated as a new article, and got approved as a GA in the meantime. Cambalachero (talk) 13:20, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Nominator: Aszx5000 (talk · contribs) 17:30, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: 48JCL (talk · contribs) 22:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Spotcheck

[4]Y

[8]Y

[2]Y

[26]Y

[34]Y

Prose

Prose time xq 11:45, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Rhapsody has been climbed by => Some notable people that have climbed Rhapsody in the past were

then the list

 Done

(the smallest nuts sold) could go to {{efn|(the smallest nuts sold)}} and then add a notes list.

 Done

The pushpin map on the infobox deserves a caption

 Done

That’s it xq 11:54, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Neutral

Yes, is neutral

Stable

There has only ever been two authors, one making.a minor edit and the other (you) being the most significant.

Other comments

You should remove the further reading or add on the talk page: The following sources could be used to improve this article

 Done, I thought that this was a good thing to have, but I think you are saying that the source must either be in the article or not on the article page at all. thanks? Aszx5000 (talk) 12:33, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

It’s ok, but move it to the talk page. There’s a template for it. it goes like, the following sources may be useful in improving the article or something like that. Not sure what the link is tho, will pass. Also add alt text to images. Good work @Aszx5000. xq 12:48, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

On hold

Waiting for issues to be addressed.

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Further sources

• Hutchinson, John (July 2020). The Climber's Complete Guide to Dumbarton Rock. Stone Country Press. ISBN 978-0992887629.

Aszx5000 (talk) 12:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)