Talk:Religion in ancient Tamilakam

Local deities

A little more coverage of the local deities would do good. There's a series on such deities in the Vikatan weekly (I think) under the title "தெற்கத்தித் தெய்வங்கள்". One could refer to that as well. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 16:29, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Sundar, I don't have access to vikatan (no online subscription either), so we may have to depend on someone else to read up the series you mention. I'll see if I can find some info elsewhere. The other missing piece is a section about popular beliefs such as hero-stone worship and other animistic beliefs. The Buddhism and Jainism sections could use more material too. I hope to get around to this article sometime, eventually :) Lotlil 05:41, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Moved

I've moved this article from to Religion in ancient Tamil country, which is consistent with other articles authored by editors who have worked on this article (Agriculture in ancient Tamil country, Industry in ancient Tamil country etc.).

"Tamil Nadu" generally refers to the modern Indian state of Tamil Nadu, while the article beings with "The people of the ancient Tamil country...". According to the article ancient Tamil country, the area comprised of present-day Tamil Nadu and Kerala. utcursch | talk 08:44, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the title. I was not aware of the first move, it wasn't just inconsistent with other articles, but was plain wrong. Lotlil 12:50, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

"ancient Tamil country" isn't an encyclopedic term. This should read "South India during the Sangam period". --dab (𒁳) 18:48, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree that "Ancient Tamil country" is not an encyclopedic term. If it refers to the states of Tamil Nadu and Kerala then it should mention Religion in ancient Tamil Nadu and Kerala.Indoscope (talk) 08:35, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Boodhargal

I am not sure if this is how it is spelt in English, but I remember reading in Manimekalai where Manimekalai (the Buddhist monk) involves in an open debate with people of various religions and sects and establishes (as per the text) the authority of Buddhism. The text, if my memory hasn't betrayed me, talks about a particular religion called Boodhargal, who are somewhat like atheist (or non-theist) in nature. Is there any details available on these people? Boodhargal which I remember derives from Boodhangal or the five elements, although they are not known to believe them as Gods. Cheers! ώiki Ѕαи Яоzε ^†αLҝ 06:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Boothargal may denote disciples of Lord Siva, the Siththargal. Few of them are actually known by such names.Redhome (talk) 03:00, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Please clear Disambiguity:

Please clear the disambiguity created in the Hinduism section by the Inclusion of Religion in Post-Sangam age as well in the ancient history . Inclusion of Mahabarata, Vedic practices, Vedic equivalent names of ancient Tamil deities, all these are misappropriate and irrelevant here in the context of the Sangam era religion, as these became popular only in the Saivite-Vaishnavite revival era i.e., post-7th century AD. Please present correct data with relevant archaeological/Sangam literature evidence.Thank you. Cheers.Redhome (talk) 03:19, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Judaism

Ravichandar84 (talk | contribs)‎ As per WP:SYNTH. While it is true that the Tamil word for peacock is similar to the Hebrew, none of the authors cited conclude on basis of these that Jews lived in TN.

This part about Ophir is a theory that has been proposed as it clearly says. It does not say "Jews lived in TN" but rather that the land of Ophir may be Tamilagam with whom King Solomon traded.

rm theory proposed by fringe historians. True, Jews did settled in Kerala and a few continue to do so even now. But there is no concrete evidence that they inhabited any part of present-day Tamil Nadu

• WP:V - You cannot decide who is or who is not "fringe historians" - you are welcome to challenge it though.

• Please refer to the fact that neither is this article about Tamil Nadu nor about Kerala but about Tamizhagam, the ancient Tamil country - hence the title. For your benefit, Kerala is the sanskritised version of Chera Nadu is a part of Tamizhagam and home to the Chera Dynasty one of the Three Crowned Kings.

• Anjuvannam Jews is a dictionary entry, i.e., it is established beyond doubt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avedeus (talk • contribs) 19:12, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Please see:

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=VuvshP5_hg8C&pg=PA31&dq=education+tamilakam&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BSQ0T6qVMsWq8AORwtWiAg&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avedeus (talk • contribs) 19:54, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Firstly, V. Kanakasabhai is not a mainstream historian. He has postulated that Tamils originated from Tamluk in West Bengal which most historians have outrightly dismissed. The "tokei" thing is mentioned in Robert Caldwell's book and is most probably, true. But how is it relevant to the article. Ancient Tamils traded with the whole of the West Asia, Egypt (when it was a part of the Roman Empire) and South-East Asia. Mentioning details on trade with Ancient Israel in a section on "Judaism in the Ancient Tamil country" might be as irrelevant as adding a section on Roman paganism and mentioning the Tamil country's trade with Rome during the time of Augustus. There is no evidence that those trade contacts triggered large scale migrations. Migrations to the west coast of India came at a later date. And it is as yet unsure to what extent was Tamil the lingua-franca of the ancient Kerala. Nevertheless, a brief reference the arrival of Jews in Kerala might be made and I've let the sentence remain.-Ravi_{My Tea Kadai} 18:33, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

The "Jewish dictionary" can be considered only as much reliable as the Catholic and Hindu encyclopedias available on the web.-Ravi_{My Tea Kadai} 18:40, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Ancient Tamil Religious Concept

I changed The title Hinduism to Ancient Tamil Religious Concept, because there is no word called Hinduism referred in Tamil sangam literature, So it is proper to have its name as Ancient Tamil religious concept. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VelKadamban (talk • contribs) 17:37, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Completely False Claims

A lot of false information listed in this page. Many of the un-cited sentences are intended to mislead readers to propagate the editor’s religious agenda.

Hinduism in its current definition did not exist let alone the categorically accepted distinctions or factions like Vaishnavism and Shaivism. Yet the author claims that such beliefs existed in Ancient Tamilakam, in the first sentence.

Propose someone to re-write this article.

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