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Sentence suggestion for a small sentence in Work, Typology of Transsexualism

Hello, there's a sentence, "Within the transgender community the idea has been criticized," is missing a comma, as in "Within the transgender community, the idea has been criticized;" however, I fell changing to "The idea has been criticized by the transgender community." feels more direct and slightly more clear.

Should this edit (A) just correct the missing comma, or (B) should it be changed?

• A. "Within the transgender community, the idea has been criticized."

• B. "The idea has been criticized by the transgender community."

===Typology of transsexualism===
{{main|Blanchard's transsexualism typology}}
Blanchard coined the term "autogynephilia" to describe [[Trans woman|trans women]] with an erotic desire "to be women," and hypothesized that all gender dysphoria experienced by this group is of two types: "homosexual" gender dysphoria and "non-homosexual" gender dysphoria. Blanchard defined the former as being present in [[transsexuals]] attracted to men, while he defined the latter as being present in transsexuals attracted to the idea of themselves as women.<ref>{{Cite journal 
| last1 = Blanchard | first1 = R. 
| title = The classification and labeling of nonhomosexual gender dysphorias 
| journal = Archives of Sexual Behavior 
| volume = 18 
| issue = 4 
| pages = 315–334 
| year = 1989 
| pmid = 2673136
 | doi=10.1007/BF01541951
| s2cid = 43151898 
}}</ref> Within the [[transgender]] community, the idea has been criticized.<ref>{{Cite journal 
| last1 = Dreger | first1 = A. D. 
| title = The Controversy Surrounding ''The Man Who Would Be Queen'': A Case History of the Politics of Science, Identity, and Sex in the Internet Age 
| doi = 10.1007/s10508-007-9301-1 
| journal = Archives of Sexual Behavior 
| volume = 37 
| issue = 3 
| pages = 366–421 
| year = 2008 
| pmid = 18431641 
| pmc =3170124 
}}</ref>

===Typology of transsexualism===
{{main|Blanchard's transsexualism typology}}
Blanchard coined the term "autogynephilia" to describe [[Trans woman|trans women]] with an erotic desire "to be women," and hypothesized that all gender dysphoria experienced by this group is of two types: "homosexual" gender dysphoria and "non-homosexual" gender dysphoria. Blanchard defined the former as being present in [[transsexuals]] attracted to men, while he defined the latter as being present in transsexuals attracted to the idea of themselves as women.<ref>{{Cite journal 
| last1 = Blanchard | first1 = R. 
| title = The classification and labeling of nonhomosexual gender dysphorias 
| journal = Archives of Sexual Behavior 
| volume = 18 
| issue = 4 
| pages = 315–334 
| year = 1989 
| pmid = 2673136
 | doi=10.1007/BF01541951
| s2cid = 43151898 
}}</ref> The idea has been criticized by the [[transgender]] community.<ref>{{Cite journal 
| last1 = Dreger | first1 = A. D. 
| title = The Controversy Surrounding ''The Man Who Would Be Queen'': A Case History of the Politics of Science, Identity, and Sex in the Internet Age 
| doi = 10.1007/s10508-007-9301-1 
| journal = Archives of Sexual Behavior 
| volume = 37 
| issue = 3 
| pages = 366–421 
| year = 2008 
| pmid = 18431641 
| pmc =3170124 
}}</ref>

Also, both edits removed an extra space in two sentences, as shown below.

"non-homosexual" gender dysphoria.  Blanchard defined the former as being present
}}</ref>  Within the [[transgender]] community the idea has been criticized.

"non-homosexual" gender dysphoria. Blanchard defined the former as being present
}}</ref> Within the [[transgender]] community the idea has been criticized.

Danny, JumboSizedFish (talk) 00:37, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

 Done If somebody prefers the second edit, please let me know!

January 2024 edits

@Hooky6 and Zenomonoz: can we talk about the recent edits? I'm with Zenomonoz, in that it makes no sense to put content that has nothing about Blanchard's views on transgender people into §Views on transgender people. The rewrite of the 4thWaveNow is a clear worsening: it's both longer and less specific to say "has included the 4thWaveNow article in its 'Roundup of Anti-LGBT Activities'" rather than the well-supported "described as an anti-trans website". Hooky, you claimed in an edit summary that you are not edit warring, and I posted at templated warning about edit warring at your talk page. Please read the associated policy links, as the behavior you've engaged in is 100% edit warring. I encourage you to self-revert. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 14:39, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

I agree, Hooky6 should self revert their most recent undo. Zenomonoz (talk) 01:52, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

I waited 24 hours since the self-revert request, and Hooky6 has not been active in that time. This change is problematic enough in terms of NPOV and general accuracy that I'm uncomfortable with waiting longer, and I've reverted. Hooky6, I'd still like to hear your thoughts on why you think your changes were improvements. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 14:13, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

The problem I have with this article as written, is that it does not adhere to WP:NPV, specifically when referring to claims made by the SPLC. It gives the SPLC's viewpoint tacit endorsement, instead of adhering to a neutral viewpoint.

My rewrite was attempting to move all the claims made by the SPLC into their own paragraph to separate them from other unrelated citations, as what the SPLC says about those citations is a separate viewpoint from those of the other citations. By separating these claims, it removes the implication that Wikipedia is endorsing the views of the SPLC, and instead merely reports them neutrally.

I didn't think this would be such a controversial change to make - you people really are highly biased toward left-wing views if you can't handle some minor content adjustments that improve content neutrality.

Also, you have accused me of "edit warring," but it takes two to tango. If I cared more I could just as easily pursue moderation actions against you. Hooky6 (talk) 01:00, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Are you talking to me? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:35, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Kurt Freund was not his academic advisor.

He says so himself in this Tweet: <https://x.com/BlanchardPhD/status/1002199607475130369>.

What to put instead? "Mentor" doesn't sound like an appropriate heading in a side-bar, but Freund was clearly important to him.

Maybe just remove it from the side-bar entirely and let the body text speak for itself? 2001:2043:1C3A:FF00:55C2:9B48:2A45:EDF (talk) 17:47, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes, could remove it. It's a bit confusing because the sidebar has 'doctoral advisor' for PhD advisors. Academic advisor refers to Names of any significant educational advisors. Zenomonoz (talk) 20:54, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

 Done Zenomonoz (talk) 20:55, 22 October 2024 (UTC)