Talk:Ratae Corieltauvorum
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Name
[edit]Is the revision of the name of the Coritani settled, or still a hypothesis on which historians are not agreed? Deipnosophista (talk) 09:04, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
→It's been settled for more than 30 years - it's Corieltauuorum, the 'hosts of the river valleys' or something close to that. Markaeologist (talk) 09:14, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Ratae Corieltauvorum
[edit]in Lithuanian language it could mean Wheels (Ratai) Chariot (Karieta) Driven (Varomi) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.7.82.41 (talk) 18:03, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
- In Chinese, it could be "sun, he opens the sun twice, he martially cries". So what? You're also basing your "etymology" on modern Lithuanian (which isn't anything like 2000 years old) and on the plural genitive case as though it were the root: it ain't. — LlywelynII 22:47, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
Soar
[edit]See Talk:River Soar. We should include the information about the Soar's name during this period, if it can be established. — LlywelynII 22:47, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
Prehistory section
[edit]Why the reference to the Trent? It's 20 miles from Leicester to the Trent. I propose something such as '... in the vicinity of St Nicholas's Church in the west side of the modern town centre'. Markaeologist (talk) 11:17, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
Excavations since 1990
[edit]Due to the development of the Shires, then the High Cross, as well as the Stibbe site and others, Leicester is arguably the most-excavated Roman city that still has people living in it in Britain (obviously, it will never match Wroxeter or Silchester). The last excavations mentioned are in 1971. There's not even a map to show what areas have been excavated or where finds were located. I suggest anyone with an interest in Leicester's prehistoric or Roman archaeology starts collecting information here that can be used to improve the page. Markaeologist (talk) 11:25, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
Sources
[edit]The colloquial form of the name; 'Ratae/(Rete) Castrum' most probably had a vulgar pronunciation something akin to /lret͡se-sestru(n)/ giving the present form 'Leicester' [citation needed]. (cf. Fr/Pt le réseau/ a rede - network-hub/web/trap, En/Angl. gastro, 'restaurant'.)
- That is not sourcing your claim. Link to an online source that says that 1-Leicester was ever known as 'Ratae Castrum' and 2-Ratae Castrum was pronounced 'lret͡se-sestru(n)'. If you cannot then this is original research. I suggest you publish it in a peer-reviewed source of note (Transactions of the Leicester Archaeology and Historical Society, perhaps, or Antiquity, or Current Archaeology) and then when it has been published, we can put it in wiki which is an encyclopedia of agreed knowledge.
Markaeologist (talk) 15:25, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
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The latest revisions to the topic of the name bringing in Phoenician etymology and deleting Celtic linguistic information are a) unsourced (so not suitable for an encyclopedia) and b) irrelevant (with no discussion on why a town in Roman Britain would have a Phoenician name). Wiki is an encyclopedia not a place for original research. Markaeologist (talk) 10:45, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
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