Talk:Rams (card game)

	Games portal This article is part of WikiProject Board and table games, an attempt to better organize information in articles related to board games and tabletop games. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.Board and table gamesWikipedia:WikiProject Board and table gamesTemplate:WikiProject Board and table gamesboard and table game articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Bierspiel

The lede states that "in the German variety of the game called Bierspiel, the 7♦ is the second best trump ranking next below the ace." While this cites Parlett, he seems to be perpetuating an error from pre-war Hoyles that Bierspiel is the name of a variant of Rams. However, that is not, however, supported by any German sources AFAICS. Unsurprisingly because Bierspiel is just a generic word meaning "drinking game". Where the confusion has arisen, I suspect, is that numerous German sources include this game, which they variously call "Rammes", "Ramsch", "Ramschen", "Ramscheln", "Rhams" or "Rams", in lists of drinking games. One source even heads its rules as "Das Bierspiel Rammes" i.e. "The drinking game of Rammes". Bermicourt (talk) 22:13, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]