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Any relation? 0DF (talk) 17:50, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@0DF It literally states in the article In 1979, the Kare family donated to start the Govind Ramnath Kare College of Law. Rejoy2003(talk) 17:59, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rejoy2003: Sorry, that wasn't very observant of me. Thanks for responding. So, is Ramnath Kare's full name "Govind Ramnath Kare", or does "Govind" mean something else? 0DF (talk) 04:20, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@0DF It's his father's name. They named the college after the head of the family. Rejoy2003(talk) 06:25, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rejoy2003: Thank you. I noted that in the article for the Govind Ramnath Kare College of Law. Since the same source gives this man's full name as Ramnath Govind Kare, I've also noted that middle name in the article for him.
Perhaps unrelatedly, but do you know whether the Kare surname of this family is the same as the Kare surname of Lata Bhagwan Kare (i.e. Marathi: करे)? 0DF (talk) 21:11, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@0DF To eliminate your doubts about the last name and middle name questions, for Hindus, this is quite common. Their children taken after their father's first name as their own middle name. The answer to your other question, is yes, they are apparently the same. Although I'm not sure about their origin of the "Kare" surname, possibly it might have come from Maharashtra. Rejoy2003(talk) 06:04, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rejoy2003: I didn't find the "switched" name order of father and son particulary confusing; I see that quite frequently in Anglophone countries amongst non-Hindus, too. Thanks for the confirmation about the surname. I inferred a Marathi source because the film Lata Bhagwan Kare is in Marathi and because Marathi is an official language of Goa, although I considered it possible that Lata's surname could derive from Telugu: కరే and Ramnath's could derive from a Konkani source. I was not and am not certain, however. Are you able to tell me how the surname is pronounced, please? 0DF (talk) 12:41, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@0DF Marathi is not the official language of Goa, it is Konkani actually. Marathi is used at times for offical communication purposes. Marathi and Konkani are so similar yet so different, when speaking about last names, I think they are pronounced the same. For us Goans, we'd pronounce the Kare surname as Kaa-ré. Rejoy2003(talk) 12:47, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rejoy2003: Please excuse my error; it stems from the transclusion of {{Infobox Indian state or territory}} in [[Goa]], which notes Marathi and English as "Additional official" languages of the state. When you write Kaa-ré, do you mean that the first vowel is a long a (as in the first vowel of father) and not a schwa (as in the first vowel of about)? 0DF (talk) 13:33, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@0DF while verifying or in general speaking content on Wikipedia comes down to WP:WINRS, basically nothing here is reliable. I won't be surprised if someone changes the official language of Goa to English tomorrow. See [1] where it is stressed that Konkani is the official language, we literally had [[Konkani language agitation|young men died to get this]. Secondly yes it's long "a". Rejoy2003(talk) 19:42, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rejoy2003: Point taken. I make the pronunciation /kɑːr/, Marathi pronunciation: [kaːɾe], but I don't know the stress. Could you tell me whether the name is stressed on the first syllable (the penult) or on the second (the ultima), please? 0DF (talk) 22:25, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@0DF it is stressed on the first syllable Rejoy2003(talk) 04:38, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rejoy2003: That's great; thank you. A final thing: There is an Indian theoretical condensed-matter physicist named Kare Narain Pathak. He's from Uttar Pradesh, so I doubt his given name and the surname we've been discussing are related, but I thought I'd ask just in case. Do you know the origin and/or pronunciation of Dr Pathak's given name, by any chance? 0DF (talk) 07:33, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@0DF Please stick to the topic related with this article, see WP:NOFORUM. To speak on that particular page we can have the discussion at its associated talk page. Rejoy2003(talk) 08:32, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rejoy2003: OK. I've asked that question at Talk:K N Pathak#Origin and pronunciation of the given name Kare. 0DF (talk) 09:56, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]