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This page should be moved to Baba Ramdev Ji

Baba Ramdev Ji was a hindu. So this name is more popular for him and mainly used among his followers. While Ramdev Pir is also used because one of his miracles but it is only used by very few people. So the main name should be used as Page title. If you have any argument please discuss it. Nonethelessian (talk) 13:24, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Nonethelessian You'll need to open a move request and add the sources why it should be moved to that name. That linked policy page will give you more details. -- DaxServer (talk) 17:08, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Caste

This article has been undergoing a long term edit war over his caste [1], I've seen many editors introducing Meghwal as his caste in contradiction to the academic consensus over what his caste was. He has been unanimously described as a Rajput or a Rajput of Tanwar/Tomar clan in almost all scholarly sources covering him:

Boivin, M. (2024). Devotion, Religious Authority, and Social Structures in Sindh: Khojas, Vanyos, and Faqirs. Brill's Indological Library. Brill. p. 128. ISBN 978-90-04-69529-0. Retrieved 2024-10-08. "The untouchables castes were followers of the Devis, for which they were known as Shaktis, and they also worshipped "Rajput heroes" such as Ramdev Pir and Pabu"
Granoff, P.; Shinohara, K. (2011). Pilgrims, Patrons, and Place: Localizing Sanctity in Asian Religions. Asian Religions and Society. UBC Press. p. 347. ISBN 978-0-7748-4219-8. Retrieved 2024-10-08. "Rāmdev (Rāmdeo, Rāmde) pīr, a semi-legendary Rajput hero of the end of the fourteenth century...."
Saberwal, S. (2012). Spirals of Contention: Why India was Partitioned in 1947. Taylor & Francis. p. 13. ISBN 978-1-136-51744-0. Retrieved 2024-10-08."...Ramdev has two faces: he is believed to be an avatar of Vishnu-Krishna, and also a pir called Ramdev Pir or Ramshah Pir, A fifteenth century Rajput,....."
Hinduism: New Essays in the History of Religions. Numen Book Series. Brill. 2018. p. 121. ISBN 978-90-04-37851-3. Retrieved 2024-10-08."It is said that Rāmdev was born in 1404 A.D., the son of a Toṅwar Rājpūt king,...

I hope this comment will clear up the dispute regarding his caste. Ratnahastin (talk) 05:18, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]