Talk:Ralph Becker (Utah politician)

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It looks from the article text as if he would have been up for re-election in 2011. Was he re-elected? 169.253.194.1 (talk) 23:12, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Which House?

OK, but... Which House? The Utah State House? The Federal one? When was this? 68.39.174.238 03:09, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

State. Fixed :-) Ta bu shi da yu 09:29, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

questionable text

Why would you write a Wikepedia page about yourself?

moved this on out of here. --Jamielyn7 04:07, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article title

This article used to be titled "Ralph Becker (Utah)" but was changed to "Ralph Elihu Becker Jr." in May 2009. The comment at the time was "If the name is unique, doesn't it make more sense to call the person by his own name? Following pattern of Jon Huntsman."

The Manual of Style says "the article title should generally be the name by which the subject is most commonly known". I have never heard the Salt Lake City mayor referred to as "Ralph Elihu Becker Jr.", so I suspect it's not "the name by which [he] is most commonly known". He is almost always called "Ralph Becker" [1][2][3][4][5]. His father seems to have been known as "Ralph Becker" [6][7] or "Ralph E. Becker" [8][9][10].

I suggest changes to both article titles:

Remove the spelled-out middle name. Neither person is known this way so it doesn't belong in the title (see Manual of Style above).
The son is not often called "Jr.", unlike "Ken Griffey, Jr.", "Harry Connick, Jr.", or "Cuba Gooding, Jr.". For whatever it's worth, Google returns 12 times more hits hits for "Ralph Becker" than "Ralph Becker Jr.". Perhaps we should use a different disambiguation scheme instead of "Ralph Becker" and "Ralph Becker, Jr."

For the son I suggest something like:

"Ralph Becker (mayor)"
"Ralph Becker (Utah)"
"Ralph Becker (Democrat)"

For the father I suggest something like:

"Ralph E. Becker"
"Ralph Becker (ambassador)"
"Ralph Becker (Republican)"

I assume "Ralph Becker" should remain a disambiguation page.

Thanks! ——Rich jj (talk) 16:17, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

With no objections, I moved the page to "Ralph Becker (mayor)". Maybe the argument can be made that "Ralph Becker (Utah)" is better since it can refer to his positions in the state Democratic party or state legislature or possible future political ambitions. ——Rich jj (talk) 20:48, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to now move the father's page from "Ralph Elihu Becker" to "Ralph E. Becker", but that page already exists as a redirect to the disambiguation page at "Ralph Becker". How can a page be moved to replace an existing redirect page? ——Rich jj (talk) 20:54, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]