Talk:Rajput clans/Archive 2
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Semi-protected edit request on 27 April 2022 (2)
Ghosh is most probably an old Agnivanshi clan. It might make sense to have a reference to that for historical reasons. One paper that mentions that is here: https://www.academia.edu/42484090/Royal_katars_of_Bundi. However, I'm not sure if this will be considered an original source, and hence unacceptable for Wikipedia. The reason this clan perished is probably that at some point in time in Bengal the Brahmins changed the varna system from a four-tier system to a two-tier one, where one is either a Brahmin or a Shudra (similar to what you have in some parts of South India). This resulted in the Ghoshs losing their status and connections to their former clan. In the present time, Ghoshs will identify themselves as Kayasthas. But, perhaps for historical completeness, they should be mentioned here, even if not in the list of the other Agnivanshis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.92.6 (talk) 04:19, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 31 December 2022
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Bais rajput are considered under Suryavansh Lineage but the page consider them under chandravansh Lineage. You can check it on other rajput forum pages. kindly edit it 2405:201:4015:B024:8009:A14F:C1F5:FD7C (talk) 18:40, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Lemonaka (talk) 19:34, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Merge proposal
It has been suggested that 36 royal races is best merged here for context; see the earlier discussion at Talk:Bharata Khanda#Proposed merge of 36 royal races into Bharata Khanda. Let's restart discusson about the new target here. Klbrain (talk) 19:01, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 09:44, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
Kirar
Kiraro ko Rajput mana jata je 2402:8100:2731:BE70:1F0F:D3A:DEC3:898C (talk) 11:19, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Kirar
rajputo ko bhi kirara mana jata he 2402:8100:2731:BE70:1F0F:D3A:DEC3:898C (talk) 11:20, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Suryavanshi (Ikshvaku) lineage of Rajputs
This section, which was factually incorrect, and not even supported by source cited there, is removed in my recent edit. But my edit removed some other stuffs too. I will be reinstating the useful stuff from the revert. Basically, i was concerned about this [1] edit, which created issue here.-Admantine123 (talk) 14:10, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
Bais Rajput
Bais Rajput are considered to be suryavanshi Rajput clan. You should remove the Bais rajput from chandravansh and put them in Suryavash Ujjawalsingh009 (talk) 05:00, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
The Modern Day Saini's under the Category of Chandravanshi Clans
The Modern Day Saini's under the Category of Chandravanshi Clans. The Saini's are Descendants of Shurasena aka ShoorSaini the Ruler of Surasena Kingdom of the present-day Braj region in Uttar Pradesh, with Mathura as its capital city.He was also the Father of Vasudeva and the GrandFather of Hindu God Krishna . So the Saini's also belong in the Chandravanshi Clan, below the Title of "Chandravansh lineage of Rajputs". SikkaSingh (talk) 06:36, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Addition of Bhatia / Bhatti surname with Bhati Rajput clans under Chandravanshi Rajputs
The Bhatia / Bhatti clans were a part of the Bhati Dynasty of the Chandravanshi Rajput clan. When Mahmud of Ghazni attacked the Bhati Dynasty from western part, a total of 24000 women performed jauhar and the remaining Bhati people adopted sahukari (business) to survive and consequently changed their surname to Bhatia / Bhatti from Bhati. There is enough evidence that we get from books such as History of Jaisalmer and Books by Sir Donoven to support these facts. RAJPUT BHATIA (talk) 03:07, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2024
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"Change Bais clan from Chandravanshi lineage to Suryavanshi lineage" Raptordvz (talk) 21:22, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page). |author1=Jessraj Singh Seesodia |title=The Rajputs: a fighting race |page=92 |archive-url=https://archive.org/details/rajputsfightingr00jessrich |archive-date=2007-07-09 |language=English}}</ref>
- Done Charliehdb (talk) 09:49, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you Raptordvz (talk) 17:59, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
the whole world is rajput
The earth is not round, but it is a Rajput. The whole world is a Rajput. If any caste reaches respect through its hard work, then someone else tries to snatch the identity of that caste, as Rajput people do, they are bent on making every warrior or famous caste a Rajput. remove the unsourced claims, like Yadu (Yadava), Yaduvanshi, Kalachuri, Haihaya, all these are clans of Ahirs. 2409:4085:9EB1:7C3F:0:0:8149:C011 (talk) 20:30, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please provide us reliable sources as per your concern.
- Thanks & regards! Super Dud (talk) 05:44, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Addition about "Bhoyar Pawar" caste which is decendend from a confederacy of various Rajput clans.
I request for adding the information about Bhoyar Pawar caste in this article. I have provided the references below. 👇🏻 [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] Alex Cupper (talk) 07:32, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- all the sources you provided are not reliable, please provide us some verifiable sources, so that we can proceed with your statement!
- Thanks & Regards! Super Dud (talk) 05:46, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Rajesh Barange Pawar. The Pawar Rajput's: An Historical Journey from Malwa to Central India.
They are known as "Kshatriya Pawar" or "Pawar" or "Panwar" names in Betul and Chhindwara, and as "Bhoyar Pawar" or "Bhoyar" names in Wardha. The name "Bhoyar" is associated with their initial settlement in Bhorgarh fort, later becoming a part of their identity, although efforts were made to revert to the original name "Pawar" in the early 20th century.
- ^ Rajesh Barange Pawar. The Pawar Rajputs: An Historical Journey from Malwa to Central India.
The Pawar Rajput's: An Historical Journey from Malwa to Central India" is a detailed exploration by author Rajesh Barange Pawar. The narrative traces the Pawar Rajputs' lineage, their migration from Malwa to Central India between the 15th and 17th centuries, and their significant contributions to the Parmar dynasty. The account highlights their bravery, the pivotal event of migration post the 1305 defeat against Alauddin Khilji, and the establishment of the Pawar caste. The narrative also delves into their identity, cultural nuances, and the efforts to preserve their historical legacy. The work is substantiated with references to genealogists, research studies, and publications, offering readers a comprehensive understanding of the Pawar Rajputs' rich history. For further insights, readers can explore Rajesh Barange Pawar's blog.
- ^ Rajesh Barange Pawar. A Study of the Pawar Community Gotra (surnames) in central India.
- ^ Rajesh Barange Pawar. A Study of the Pawar Community Gotra (surnames) in central India.
In particular, the study piece explores the Pawar community surnames in Central India, notably in the areas of Betul, Chhindwara, and Wardha. Known for its deep historical roots and wide-ranging geographical presence, the Pawar community expresses itself via a wide variety of surnames that have changed throughout time. This research, which takes a multidisciplinary approach, uses historical sources, language analysis, sociological viewpoints, genealogy data, community organization books, and the observations of community historians to track the history of Pawar surnames. The 72 surnames connected to the Pawar group are the main subject, especially those deriving from the Rajputs of the Malwa area. By analyzing the migration patterns and factors that have shaped the community's nomenclature, the study seeks to understand how these surnames have changed over time. A confederacy of 72 Kshatriya clans, including well-known ones like Parihar, Parmar, Solanki, Chauhan, Rathore, Kushwaha, Gahlot, Badgujar, Dangi, Gaur, Balla, Baghel, Tomar, Bhati, Jhala, Labana, Uthed, Ajana, Garg, Jethwa, Kanpuriya, Barodiya, Chawda, Dahima, and Tank Rajputs, are thought to be the ancestors of the Pawars, according to genealogists (bhatt/rao). The present study reveals the historical, cultural, and social factors that played a role in the development of Pawar surnames, providing valuable perspectives into the complex fabric of the community's identity.
- ^ Pawar, Rajesh Barange (2024-01-01). ""Journey Through Time: Tracing the Ancient Roots of the Pawar Community in Central India "". The Journal of Indian History, an Indian Journal. Retrieved 2024-03-31.
- ^ Pawar, Rajesh Barange (2024-01-01). ""The Pawar Rajput's: An Historical Journey from Malwa to Central India""". Indian Research Journal of History and Humanities and Social Sciences (IRJHHSS). Retrieved 2024-03-31.
- ^ Pawar, Rajesh Barange (2023-01-01). "" A Study of the Pawar Community Gotra (surnames) in central India"". Indian Research Journal of History and Humanities and Social Sciences (IRJHHSS). Retrieved 2024-03-31.
- ^ Kshatriya Pawar (72 clan).
Semi-protected edit request on 5 September 2024
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I want to change a link target which was changed by Howlings on 31 August 2024 of yaduvanshi Karchul Haihay from heheya kingdom to Kalachuri. The wikipedia Kalachuri is made by him and written very short points on karchul Haihay and didn't mentioned anything about Haihay kingdom which was mentioned in heheya. People should know the history so I request you to edit or give me permission to edit. Shri Ram Krishna (talk) 01:22, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Not done for now: These sources are from academia.edu, and some are deprecated. Please find better sources on Google Scholar, before reopening this edit request. ⸺(Random)staplers 19:34, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Addition of Gaur rajput in the Suryavansh.
kindly add Gaur rajputs in the list of the Suryavansh, they are the descendants of the lord Bharata (brother of the Ram)[1]. Officialhistory601 (talk) 14:15, 23 November 2024 (UTC)