Talk:Rajko Lotrič

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Translation of sl:Rajko Lotrič, the corresponding article from the Slovenian Wikipedia:

Rajko Lotrič, Slovenian ski jumper, * August 20, 1962, Jesenice.

Lotric played for the 1988 Winter Olympics in Calgary, where he won the 26th place in the middle jump. In the World Cup, between 1979/80 and 1989/90 he scored 25 points among the points winners, six times among the top ten. On March 27, 1988, he achieved the greatest success of his career and the only place on the podium with the second place on Bloudek's giant in Planica. At world championships, he reached 34th place in the big jumper and 46th in 1982 in Oslo and 52nd place in the big jump in 1989 in Lahti.

Translation of de:Rajko Lotrič, the corresponding article from the German Wikipedia:

Rajko Lotrič (born August 20, 1962 in Jesenice) is a former Yugoslav ski jumper.

Career Lotrič started in the Ski Jumping World Cup from 1980 to 1991. His first World Cup jumping, he played on March 8, 1980 in Lahti. He was able to win his first World Cup point in 15th place. In the following season 1980/81 he jumped with the 7th place in ski flying in Ironwood first time in the top ten. At the Nordic World Ski Championships 1982 in Oslo Lotrič jumped to the 34th place on the normal and the 46th place on the large hill. In the following seasons Lotrič could rarely jump into the points.

He reached a top ranking again on January 17, 1988, when he jumped in 7th place in Gallio. At the 1988 Winter Olympics in Calgary Lotrič jumped on the normal hill on the 26th place.

On March 27, 1988, he reached the second jumping in Planica with his second and only podium finish. He finished the season in 20th place in the overall World Cup ranking.

At the Nordic World Ski Championships 1989 in Lahti he reached the 52nd place on the normal hill. In the three World Cup competitions after the World Championships in Planica and Örnsköldsvik Lotrič could jump again in the points.

In his last season 1990/91 he was denied further success, so that he ended rather unluckily in 1991 his eleven-year ski jumping career.

Translation of sv:Rajko Lotrič, the corresponding article from the Swedish Wikipedia: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajko_Lotri%C4%8D

Rajko Lotrič, born August 20, 1962 in Jesenice, is a Slovenian former jumper who competed for Yugoslavia. He represented Partizan Zirovnica.

Career Rajko Lotrič started his 11-year international backpacking career in the World Cup at the normal hill in Salpausselkä in Lahti, Finland on March 8, 1980. He became number 15 in his first international competition. Lotrič first placed himself among the top ten in a World Cup contest in the Copper Peak ski run in Ironwood, Michigan, USA, February 13, 1981, when he was number seven. At best he was second in the competition at home in Planica March 27, 1988. The compatriot Primož Ulaga won the contest 1.6 points before Lotrič. Rajko Lotrič placed himself among the top ten in competitions in the World Cup 6 times. Lotrič competed for 11 years in the World Cup. He was best number 20 overall, the 1987/1988 season.

During the Ski World Cup 1982 in Oslo in Norway, Lotrič competed in the individual branches. He became number 46 in the normal hill (Midtstubacken) and number 34 in the big hill (Holmenkollbacken. Rajko Lotrič also started in the Ski World Cup 1989 in Lahti in Finland. There he competed in the big Salpausselkä hill and became number 52.

Rajko Lotrič participated in the 1988 Olympic Games in Calgary, Canada. There he competed in the normal hill in Canada Olympic Park and became number 26.

Lotrič started in his last World Cup competition at home on the big hill (MS 1970) in Štrbské Pleso March 30, 1991. He became number 54 in his last World Cup competition. Rajko Lotrič completed his backpacking career in 1991.

Article expansion

A decision at AFD was to "keep" because "it can be expanded using the articles in the Slovenian, German, Swedish or German Wikipedias", "Subject was born pre internet era, there would more sources in print from Yugoslavia media. Pass WP:NSPORT and WP:ANYBIO.", and "Plenty of sources available and passes WP:NOLY". I decided to expand the article. I ran into issues with translations because the articles listed were sourced with International Ski Organization and sports-reference.com that did not provide sufficient information and are primary source "External links" only.

German Wikipedia has two "Web links" (External links): Sports-Reference and International Ski Federation (FIS)

Slovene Wikipedia has two External Links: FIS page (English) and sports-reference.com

Swedish Wikipedia has two "sources" (External links"): International Ski Federation's website (FIS) and Sports Reference.

Italian Wikipedia has two "External links": FIS and sports-reference.com

Wikidata shows zero references

Copying from one of the above would be from primary sources and offer a little different twist on the same two sources.

• From search suggested at AFD:
• 1)- The incredible Noriaki Kasai has been in the World Cup for 30 years: "Slovene names, starting numbers were also marked by Yugoslavia, they left most of their memory. At the race, Janez Debelak took the 10th place, 15th was Rajko Lotrič, 22nd Matjaž Debelak and Primoz Ulag finally landed at the end.".

• 2)- Let's return the name to an unknown hero: a Triglav tricolor: "And who were the members of the expedition, who stood at the top of Triglav on 12 June and developed a Slovenian coat of arms without a coat of arms?" that mentions Rajko Lotrič among twenty others.

• 3)- One actor's theater? & # 8211; Calgary 1988: "The first competition, played on February 14 on the normal hill, began with a long jump on 85 meters Rajko Lotrič. One and a half meters closer Steve Collins jumped. The Canadian lost with the Yugoslavian by 2.9 points." and "Rajko Lotric (74 m) and Primoz Ulaga (72 m) fell out of the top twenty of the competition!". Content source but not providing notability.
• 4)- A total of 154 people have been saved by the Slovenian helicopter team, among them ten babies: If the same person: A helicopter rescue specialist.
• 5)- Historical day of cross-country skiing - double Slovenian victory!: Mentions "1988 - Primož Ulaga , Rajko Lotrič (ski jumps, Planica)".
• 6)Triglav on independence - Name mentioned only. ----I tired of searching.
• According to the External sourced only "Swedish Wikipedia" the subject placed seventh in 1981, 2nd in 1988, top ten in competitions in the World Cup 6 times, and number 20 overall, the 1987/1988 season. During the "Ski World Cup 1982" the subject was number 46 in the normal hill, and number 34 in the big hill. At the "Ski World Championships 1989" he placed 52nd. At the "1988 Olympic Games in Calgary" he placed number 26. At the World Cup in Štrbské Pleso in 1991 (his last competition) he placed number 54.

I did find an image.

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Being a world cup or Olympic Games contender might be considered inherently notable. I do not support this line of thinking so someone else will have to expand the article. I find less grounds to notability claims than I did before according to the various policies and guidelines for articles especially BLP's. Copying from the other Wikipedia's with "External links" as sources is a possibility but those reportedly do not contribute to notability. I could not find biographical information "out there" just some stats so maybe someone else can. If there are no better sources it means that, short of just copying the redundant primary source information to the article or using some of the above to fluff it up, it will remain a pseudo biographical dictionary entry. Otr500 (talk) 00:43, 22 July 2019 (UTC)