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November 11, 2008Featured list candidatePromoted

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Revolution

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I removed the song "You Can Kill the Revolutionary, But You Can't Kill the Revolution" (aka "You Can't Kill the Revolution," or more commonly just "Revolution") from the discography because it was under music videos - the song was never released let alone have a video made for it! The song is actually a collaboration between Rage and Tool, not just the front men of these bands. The song was intended to be on the soundtrack for the film Judgment Night but it never happened, so perhaps this could slot into the soundracks section. Better actually would be a new section that has all the unreleased songs in it, such as "Hit the Deck," "Mindsets a Threat" etc. --LeakeyJee (talk) 13:10, 17 March 2008 (UTC) Sources: [1], [2], [3], [4].[reply]

Sounds like a good idea, by all means go ahead. скоморохъ 13:18, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I had made a small table for such, but someone undid it and put it under music videos. Blackguards_Light //Evil turning good// —Preceding comment was added at 13:36, 17 March 2008 (UTC) [reply]

OK, here's what I've done. I think it needs a few references but I don't know how to do them so could someone have a go at thos?. Also the song Producer probably should be in there, but I don't have much info on that. Does anyone think the song "Here I Come" that the band recorded with DMX but never released should be in there too?

Unreleased material

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Year Track Notes
circa 1991 "Hit tha Deck" Performed at early shows, though never recorded.
1991 "Mindsets a Threat" Appeared as track 8 on the bands early demo tape.
1991 "Autologic" Appeared as track 10 on the bands early demo tape.
1991 "Narrows" Appeared as track 11 on the bands early demo tape.
circa 1993 "Revolution" Recorded with the band Tool with the intention for it to be on the Judgment Night film soundtrack. This fell through to to internal differences within the bands. Also known as "You Can't Kill The Revolution" and "You Can Kill The Revolutionary, But You Can't Kill The Revolution."
circa 1993 "Bombtrack (Acoustic Version)" Recorded for a BBC radio show, and lyrics from Without A Face are contained within this song. The song is not technically acoustic as it contains electric guitar and bass.
circa 1995 "People of the Sun - Original Lyrics" Early demo recording from the Evil Empire sessions, the lyrics in the verses were later completely overhauled.
Unknown "Hadda Be Playing on the Jukebox - Studio Version" Never officially released. The lyrics are taken from a peom by Allen Ginsberg.
Thanks, now put it into the article! Blackguards_Light //Evil turning good//

Isnt "hadda be playing on the jukebox a live track, is there a source to say it has a studio version? Also "fuck da police" is a live cover, that may be notable because its on most of their discography torrents.--82.35.192.193 (talk) 13:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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This discography definitely has the potential to become a featured list, and with a little collaboration it's really not too far off. So, if anyone here is better versed in RATM lore than me, there's a few things which could do with ironing out:

  • Sources for the US sales figures. I think they're available if you pay, but they'll be in print elsewhere too. If anyone can locate reputable sources, then post them here!
  • A source for how "Killing in the Name" was banned on MTV.
  • A source for the note for the "Bullet in the Head" video too.
  • Ideally, an article should be created for the band's early demo tape. That way, the unreleased material could be linked back to something. If anyone knows anything about it, that would be awesome.

Let's get this show on the road. Seegoon (talk) 17:27, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll start by making a page for the demo tape - it'll be a stub but there really should be a page for it. --LeakeyJee (talk) 04:55, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The certifications are sufficient for a featured list status, just look at other FLs, they only list the certifications, and no SoundScan sales. Gocsa (talk) 23:01, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like we're good to go, I'll nominate the article in the next few days if there are no objections. Skomorokh 15:48, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think we look fairly ready to roll, and possibly rock. Here are a few of my nitpicking delights:

  • "Their first release was 1992's eponymous Rage Against the Machine; whilst not immediately successful, it did reach first position in the Billboard Heatseekers chart, and eventually reached #45 in the Billboard 200." ← Use of "reach" twice.
  • The '450,000 sales in the first week' might need clarification (where?) and citation.
  • Why are no singles released from The Battle of Los Angeles mentioned in the lead?
  • "currently have no plans to record any new material" ← Maybe "have announced no plans? We don't want to sound too sure about this!
  • Where are US Sales figures coming from?
  • At Eminem discography, you can find wikilinks to foreign charts; as opposed to linking to just France, you could link to Syndicat national de l'édition phonographique.
  • Catalogue numbers are nice, if you can get a hold of them. If you need them and can't find them, I can dig them out of my CD collection if need be.
  • I think there's a special symbol for multiplication, as opposed to just the letter x. I'm saying this in reference to 2x Platinum, etc. That can be found at the Eminem discography too.
  • Quite a few recent FL discographies have merged the '"—" denotes releases that did not chart.' into the end of the table. See Death Cab for Cutie discography, for instance, which was promoted on June 29.
  • Does the last track in the Music videos section belong? Doesn't look that way.
  • It doesn't bother me, but some reviewers might raise eyebrows at the Unreleased material section.
  • If it was you who found reference #23, bravo son.

I hope this helps rather than hinders. Seegoon (talk) 17:03, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Testify EP

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I didn't notice the testify EP listed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.209.102.139 (talk) 16:01, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

darkness of greed

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darkness of greed needs to be included here somewhere. under "singles" I guess. 24.154.87.90 (talk) 14:04, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge discussion

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There is a short article about the 1994 live album Bulletproof which was proposed for deletion. I have removed the prod template because I noticed that despite being able to verify its existence through external sources such as MTV, it does not appear to be included in this discography article. I believe a more appropriate course of action would be to merge some of the basic information into the Live albums section of this article. Dfadden (talk) 12:08, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I oppose any merge, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bulletproof (Rage Against the Machine album). duffbeerforme (talk) 13:10, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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