Talk:Radical Optimism Tour

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2024 dates part of tour?

I know it was [previously] seen that the dates from June and July of 2024 were part of the tour, but it seems as if the release of the new 2025 dates show the November 2024 launch in Singapore as the launch of the tour as evident by the press release via Live Nation. So, should the earlier dates still be included? livelikemusic (TALK!) 16:46, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If the setlist for the Nov 2024 onwards shows turns out to be different, I suppose the prior shows should be considered simply promotional performances? Theknine2 (talk) 01:15, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of the set list, even the press release above omits the previous dates from the itinerary. They're [briefly] mentioned in the prose but not as tour dates for this tour. livelikemusic (TALK!) 14:10, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree it should be part of the tour. Dua Lipa's website specifically stated it as "Radical Optimism Tour": https://web.archive.org/web/20240605184105/https://www.dualipa.com/tour/ Sammyrayy (talk) 21:15, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Secondary sources refer to Berlin as the first date of the tour as well: https://news.pollstar.com/2024/06/07/chart-scene-dua-lipa-joins-artist-power-index-following-new-tour-launch/ Sammyrayy (talk) 21:17, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Again, as linked above, the PR release did not list them as previously part of the "Radical Optimism Tour," and were instead stated as a separate performance. [Most] artists put those kind of festival performances on their "tour" page, without it even being part of a tour. livelikemusic (TALK!) 21:33, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

the difference is the artist site doesn't usually state the name of the tour. this one specifically says "radical optimism tour" Sammyrayy (talk) 21:09, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Third party will always hold more weight over first or secondary ones. Again, the press release for the tour omitted the summer dates. livelikemusic (TALK!) 00:22, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

as mentioned before, other third party sources do list berlin as the beginning of the tour.

https://consequence.net/2024/09/dua-lipa-2025-north-american-radical-optimism-tour/

https://news.pollstar.com/2024/06/07/chart-scene-dua-lipa-joins-artist-power-index-following-new-tour-launch/

https://www.rttnews.com/3434016/dua-lipa-announces-2024-european-tour-dates.aspx Sammyrayy (talk) 00:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Based on the listings from the artist's website, but per the PR Release (which is an official release by the producer of the tour — Live Nation — they do not include the festival concerts, or even the recently-performed Austin concert, as part of this concert tour. livelikemusic (TALK!) 00:45, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]