Talk:RFA Sir Galahad (1966)

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ships, a project to improve all Ship-related articles. If you would like to help improve this and other articles, please join the project, or contribute to the project discussion. All interested editors are welcome. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.ShipsWikipedia:WikiProject ShipsTemplate:WikiProject ShipsShips articles

Military history: Maritime / British / European / Cold War Start‑class

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles

Start

This article has been rated as Start-class on the project's quality scale.

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion not met Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	Maritime warfare task force
	British military history task force
	European military history task force
	Cold War task force (c. 1945 – c. 1989)

South America: Falklands Low‑importance

	Latin America portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject South America, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles related to South America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.South AmericaWikipedia:WikiProject South AmericaTemplate:WikiProject South AmericaSouth America articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Falkland Islands work group (assessed as Low-importance).

British Overseas Territories

	United Kingdom portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject British Overseas Territories, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of British Overseas Territories on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.British Overseas TerritoriesWikipedia:WikiProject British Overseas TerritoriesTemplate:WikiProject British Overseas TerritoriesBritish Overseas Territories articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Addition of uncited material about the role of the Royal Marines in the rescue.

I've removed WP:NPOV material inserted by user:147.108.253.254 but left the rest as it provides what I believe is useful eye witness material. I hope we can find a means of verifying it. JRPG (talk) 22:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on RFA Sir Galahad (1966). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090719102137/http://www.national-army-museum.ac.uk/exhibitions/falklands/page5.shtml to http://www.national-army-museum.ac.uk/exhibitions/falklands/page5.shtml

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 03:27, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of the UXB

I have removed this addition from the article:

"This is a story much credited by those who were not there. In actuality a small four man team from Fleet Clearance Diving Team Three were responsible for removing the bomb (still fused and 'alive and ticking'), with the help of one of Galahad's crane drivers. The bomb was lifted from the port-side battery charging room, through three hatches and lowered over the side into the inflatable filled with cornflakes packets to allow the weapon to remain in its original orientation and thus not actuate the live fuse. The bomb was then sent to the seabed to await further render safe action after the surrender. Contrary to the Myth at the start of the paragraph, no Royal Marines were allowed onboard. They did not carry the bomb the length of the ship, nor did one Royal Marine take it (again) the length of the ship dangling from a fork-lift truck. These stories have come from the fanciful imaginations of people who wanted to help, were turned away because of the extreme danger of the work and who really wanted to be part of the legend. The actual operation took eight and a half hours to complete, despite the entire area being saturated with acid and the added complication that ensued. The Divers were awarded one Distinguished Service Cross, one Mention in Dispatches and two C in C's Commendations for brave conduct."

I have done this as it is far too editorial in style, and needs adapting for the encyclopedia. It is also unsourced. Britmax (talk) 19:47, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I apologise for being 'far too editorial in style' but have little to go on regarding your style requirements.

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Please refer to the book 'Keep Your Head Down' by Cdr N A 'Bernie' Bruen MBE DSC MKhM RN/RNO Rtd, published in three editions for which I can provide you with ISBN and dated information. You may also refer to Ministry of Defence records referring to 'Report of Proceedings for Fleet Clearance Diving Team Three, Naval Party 1890' also from my personal records of the time, now in the Imperial War Museum. You might also like to view the interview done for News at Ten (Michael Nicholson, Brian Hanrahan) which is to be found on the YouTube under 'Falklands UXB'. You state that "The user below has a request that an edit be made to this article for which that user has an actual or apparent conflict of interest." This is true. My interest is in providing the public with a true account of this military action (presumably your interest also) and not some concocted myth from those who, perhaps, resented being turned away from the scene of what was a hugely dangerous undertaking for which the fewest number of people present was a paramount consideration. While it is quite understandable that these extra men would wish to be considered a part of the operation, it is not fair to those who actually put their lives on the line to carry it out, and that what should be their story should be usurped by those'...who were not there.' It is therefore requested that the editor give every assistance to redress the situation and allow the true facts to be presented here. 86.222.37.4 (talk) 09:32, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Here are the details of the publications referred to above:

'Keep Your Head Down' Notes on the Falklands War. (Bernie Bruen).

ISBN 1-898594-00-7. Parapress Ltd (now defunct)

'Keep Your Head Down' Second (better) edition. (Bernie Bruen).

ISBN 1-85776-262-2. Book Guild

'Keep Your Head Down' Third (even better, colour) edition. (Bernie Bruen).

ISBN 978-1-916095-31-1. Stephen Morris Publishing

For further information please refer to Ministry of Defence and Imperial War Museum 86.222.37.4 (talk) 09:38, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To the Editor:

Thank you for your consideration. I believe that I have provided you with all the information you require.

Over to you now and I hope that you will be able to put all this nonsense aside and allow the actual people concerned with this hazardous undertaking their rightful recognition.

Bruen. 86.222.37.4 (talk) 09:43, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for posting these sources. I will leave them here on the talk page for others to consider adding to the article. If there is specific text that you would like to add to the article, perhaps using the above books as sources, then please open a new edit request. If you have any questions, please go to the WP:TEAHOUSE or WP:HELPDESK. Z1720 (talk) 13:07, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]