Talk:Queen Vic Fire Week

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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on December 9, 2010.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that in preparation for moving to HD broadcasting, the British soap opera EastEnders' set was lit on fire?

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Sources

Saw on your talk page that you were after some more reception, so dug a few titbits out for you :)

Glasgow Herald - mostly plot recap, but calls Peggy's farewell ep a "poignant edition".
Nottingham Evening Post not the biggest fans: "Never in the history of soap fires, of which there have of course been legion, have so many hilariously overindulgent explosions been captured on camera."
Mail on Sunday picked the fire ep as the "Soap of the Day"
The People - deemed the lack of deaths "a wasted opportunity."

Nothing very substantial, but I hope they're in some way helpful. Frickative 23:33, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you :-) I would have probably found them eventually (though probably not if they're on findarticles.com). Anemone Projectors 00:47, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Any idea what "Standing in the ruins of the pub amid so many memories, Peggy's epiphany might have been that, in the words of HG Wells, arson is an artificial crime as 'a large number of houses deserve to be burnt'." is supposed to mean? I can't make sense of it lol Anemone Projectors 13:30, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, absolutely no idea! Googling didn't help at all. Just read the full review and it's a bit of an odd one - I particularly like the image of Peggy as a "sooty clockwork mouse". Perhaps you could use a different quote instead? This paragraph is quite good: "in hindsight, Peggy should have left Walford three or four years ago, her character trapped in a cycle of increasingly samey stories that reduced her to a parody of her former self. Given that her former self was something of a parody anyway, there was little dignity in it". Or maybe that's better suited to the Peggy article - up to you! Frickative 14:49, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I thought the quote sounded good but I can't make sense of it and if you can't either then I think it'll have to go. I shall find something else to replace it with. I reckon the last quote you just gave would be better for the Peggy article. But I'll check whe else is in the source. Anemone Projectors 16:37, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Comments to follow shortly. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 03:08, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

lead

A single-paragraph lead is a bit small for a 17k article
It reads more like an introduction than a summary of the body
I generally discourage citations in the lead, since it's supposed to be a summary
I don't suppose you can photoshop out the person in the photo? ;)
- Frickative has kindly improved the lead for me. It now has more citations but that's because there are now quotes, which require them. Frickative said she'd look at putting the writers part elsewhere as well (I couldn't find anywhere to put it since there was no other information on the writing process). The picture could be photoshopped, since that's allowed, and I think it would be great as she's just a random person with no connection to the show, but I don't have that abiity! –anemoneprojectors– 18:17, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Wow, that's a lot bigger. Great work

Plot

It's not what I would call excessively long, but if any non-essential details could be trimmed, it wouldn't hurt
- Frickative has also kindly cut this down slightly. –anemone projectors– 18:17, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

refs

The locations aren't strictly necessary, but you need to be consistent: add the location of all the refs or none at all, also, the linking is inconsistent (Nottingham is linked, but Birmingham isn't)
- I've linked all the locations, I'll look at adding the rest of the locations later, assuming I can find out what those locations are.
The Guardian is published by Guardian News and Media, GMG is the owner
- Done
Don't pipe News Group Newspapers to News International—we have redirects for a reason
- Done

ELs

What is peggystheme.com and why is it relevant?
- It's the official website of the theme tune that was created for the last episode of the group. Do you think it's not relevant? –anemoneprojectors– 08:38, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Well now I know that, I would say it is relevant, but it might help to explain that in the article. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:30, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - "Peggy's Theme" is mentioned, so I thought it would be clear why the link was there. –anemone projectors– 19:34, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The main issue is the lead. At least, that's the only serious point from a GA perspective. I'll leave this on hold to give you a chance to make the necessary fixes. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 04:09, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You would appear to have a couple of dead links n the refs. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:36, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I found one, but the other one I couldn't find because there's no quote or anything in specific to search for on Google. I don't use findarticles.com (Frickative found those links for me), but I thought it was an archive. As it's from a newspaper, can we remove the link and cite the printed version? Though I have no idea what the page number (etc) would be. I also replaced another findarticles.com link, that would probably go dead as well. –anemone projectors– 19:59, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I've also searched the Mail on Sunday (Daily Mail)'s website for "EastEnders" mentions that week and can't find anything for "soap of the day" –anemoneprojectors– 20:09, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'm going to pass this no that all the essential points have been addressed, but you'll need to find a replacement ref or remove the stuff about Soap of the Day at some point. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:46, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - Thank you. I promise I'll do something about that soon. –anemone projectors– 21:35, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - Oh Frickative already found it elsewhere! –anemone projectors– 21:37, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comparison other Queen Vic Fires in the past

Grant Mitchell burned down the Vic in 1992. Is there a source that mentions both Vic fire events? --George Ho (talk) 10:28, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know. Have you tried looking for one? –Anemone Projectors– 15:09, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Found one source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1291684/Is-moment-Queen-Vic-goes-flames.html --George Ho (talk) 03:53, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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