Talk:Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be)/Archives/2021

Ungrammatical in Spanish??

It says the phrase makes no sense in either Spanish, Italian, or French. That's not exact, in Spanish it's just spelled wrong, without the ascents, but "que será será" makes perfect sense and is the exact and correct translation of "what will be will be" (practically equivalent to "whatever will be will be"). It sounds perfectly natural and means exactly that. It might not have been used in Spanish as an expression before the song, but any Spanish speaking person would understand it with that meaning even if they had never heard it before. It could be argued whether "que" should be spelled "qué" or "que". I wouldn't be surprised if the Real Academia Española said both can be accepted. That's long to explain. Teo8976 (talk) 19:26, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

"It is ungrammatical" is not the same as "[It] makes no sense". Read the article at <https://langnhist.weebly.com/queSera.html> to see why it is ungrammatical. The English "what" (one word) meaning "that which" is "lo que" (two words) in Spanish, not "que" or "qué". The Academy has not said anything about the saying or the song. Kotabatubara (talk) 17:06, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

So what would the grammatical expression be in Spanish? Neither this wikipedia article nor your weebly link says. Is it lo que sera sera? -lethe ^{talk +} 03:40, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

The article (Sec. 4.2) lists five traditional Spanish sayings with similar meanings, as well as "Lo que será será" in a Spanish translation of Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet. Kotabatubara (talk) 15:59, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

o que tiver de ser será soa muito fatalista e portugues

"O que será, será" is perfectly valid portuguese and a closer match to the saying here. That said, it doesn't mean it was intended to be portuguese. Gotta remember Portuguese and Spanish are pratically identical twins in the language world (They look a lot like each other, but they can also be very different). 109.79.31.119 (talk) 08:01, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

is portuguese

in portuguese language have a proverby called "o que tiver de ser será" or o que será será/que sera sera

Lead image

@SomeWhatLife:, I explained in my edit summary why I thought the previous infobox image was a better choice: I actually think the previous infobox image was a better visual identification. The song's first and most prominent appearance was in the movie, and a still from that performance is a better canonical representation than one of the many possible single covers we could use. I see that you reverted my revert, but could you say why you think the French single cover is a better image for the lead? Colin M (talk) 14:54, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

There are more than 4 romance languages

Article mentions there being only 4 romance languages, despite there being romance languages other than French, Spanish, Portuguese, and Italian. 2A00:23C7:82B5:3701:895E:EDCD:BD4B:C048 (talk) 20:41, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

• See new wording in that section.Kotabatubara (talk) 16:32, 20 November 2021 (UTC)