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State & Provincial Symbol Problem

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As seems to be common, the combination of changing classification of plants and lack of expertise with legislators has made a mess of authoritatively stating what plant is a state or province's floral emblem. According to https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadians/celebrate-being-canadian/teachers-corner/pin-symbol-province-territory/fact-sheet-manitoba.html Manitoba's flower is Pulsatilla ludoviciana. Which according to POWO is a synonym for Clematis hirsutissima, which looks nothing like a "prairie crocus". There is a similar problem with South Dakota saying Pulsatilla hirsutissima is their state flower. https://sdsos.gov/general-information/about-state-south-dakota/state-seal-symbols.aspx MtBotany (talk) 20:25, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Flora of North America firmly states that regardless of how it is referred to in legislation this plant is the correct flora symbol. They currently have it classified as Anemone patens var. multifida' Pritzel, but I think this is probably the best statement. I think that there should be a paragraph about this under Taxonomy to make it clear why the state and province use different scientific names. MtBotany (talk) 20:55, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cultivation

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Update taking out other issues that seem settled or a mistake on my part:
@%cls74, I appreciate your perspective on many of your edits. I doubled checked the source where I got the information about the USDA Hardiness Zone information. While the page is largely about Pulsatilla vulgaris the information I got there was at the bottom in a section about P. patens. While that is a European species name, from the text they are clearly talking about the North American plant. I think this is a case of them following a source that synonymizes Pulsatilla nuttalliana with Pulsatilla patens. I'm checking with them to see where they got their information, but it seems likely that a Wisconsin university extension program would be working with N. American sourced plants rather than P. patens. Unless they get back to me saying they got their information from a source that was working with European plants it would be safe to put the information back in the article. Before I do this I'll wait two weeks and see if you have a contrary point of view. In the meantime I will look for other sources that might give temperature minimums for Pulsatilla nuttalliana MtBotany (talk) 21:27, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]