Talk:Public housing in the Australian Capital Territory

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I am not sure how to - much of the information in the early section about the history of Canberra Camps and early permanent dwellings comes from my research that is published in a number of books that include: Bulders of Canberra 1909-1929; Westlake One of the Vanished Suburbs of Canberra; True Tales from Canberra's Vanished Suburbs of Westlake, Westridge & Acton; A Story of Capital Hill and a number of articles published in journals CDHS - National Trust etc - footnoted etc. Ann Gugler - Good to see that it is now getting out - also published a chapter in one of Peter Freeman's Books - Ann Gugler. - PS Also have the information on a couple of web pages - Hidden Canberra and Early Canberra. I've also been co-author of a citation for Stirling Park (former westlake) - National Trust 2000 - and lived at 27 Westlake between 1941-1959. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Annrobina (talk • contribs) 08:25, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Useful reference for Canberra government housing: Cornerstone of the Capital - A History of Public Housing in the ACT

Would anyone object to renaming this article to something like Government housing in the Australian Capital Territory and expanding it to more fully cover the subject. It seems a bit un-encyclopedic to me at the moment. Martyman 06:26, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No objections from me Martyman. I think the article need it if you're prepared to put in the work. Adz 23:57, 6 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Useful References:

[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]

--Martyman-(talk) 12:07, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Gaps

The article is a terrific start. There was significant development post WWII, with Tocumwal (?) houses being shipped down, monocrete houses in O'connor and brick constructions in Turner and Ainslie. I will see if I can track some info down and get some more photos.--A Y Arktos (Talk) 00:37, 1 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I was just starting at the beginning and going through. I have been fairly busy with maps and stuff lately and haven't had a chance to continue extending this. The history of housing pdf document linked to in the article is a great reference. --Martyman-(talk) 01:14, 1 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

From the Yarralumla article: issue of distinction between salary and class?

Initially like most of early Canberra, Yarralumla consisted almost entirely of government-built housing. People who worked in Canberra in the early years were allocated houses according to their ability to pay rent. The rent was based on a percentage of the construction costs of housing. Lower-paid public servants were moved to Ainslie, Australian Capital Territory, Braddon & Reid on the north side of the Molonglo and Kingston on the south side. Better-paid public servants were moved to Blandfordia (Forrest), Barton and other suburbs in what is now the "Inner South". Public servants were not initially settled in Westridge, which was used for housing workers from the nursery and brickworks. At first, public buses did not even travel to Westridge. The closest service was a distance away at the Prime Minister's Lodge.^[5]

I will probably be removing this info from the Yarralumla article, it should probably be worked into this article. --Martyman-(talk) 01:31, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This issue affected the size of blocks too and there was some hugh and cry over the block size in Narrabundah (very small). I'll see if I can find a reference.--A Y Arktos 00:22, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Name

Would anyone object if I moved this to public housing in the Australian Capital Territory? It seems a little bit more standard; the general article is at public housing, too. Now that I'm being faced with the prospect of moving into one, I've been taking a bit of an interest, and I think there's room for quite an interesting article here. Ambi 13:03, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Done, yes I know next to nothing about how the modern public housing system actually works in Canberra these days. --Martyman-(talk) 21:50, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

References

The internet refernces will be made into a Notes section once the format of the article has settled down a bit so there is no need for the sub-heading in the references section. --Martyman-(talk) 10:56, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I have now mixed it up when adding the budget changes. I think it should use the <ref> system. If disagree, please change.--A Y Arktos\^talk 11:33, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

rate

I am giveing a rating of start - there is a lot of history there, but little about the current situation, especially little for the current prospective public housing tennant! GB 11:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Housing is not actual House

This document seems to make claim that all 'Government Housing' is a kind of single House complex - the image used shows a single story house. In some suburbs of Canberra the Government Housing includes multi story developments - these are also called Govie excepting where tenants have given another name; "The Great Wall" as just one example discribes a grey multi story complex in Canberras south —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.138.240.120 (talk) 13:29, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stanhope Government and Social Housing Test arrived after Self Government

During the Stanhope Government Social test, select housing tenants were selected and subjected to housing in areas of high crime on authorisation by the DHCS Housing Minister (which at the time controled Police). The tenants were made up of violent substance abusive people that were seperated by 1 or 2 other tenants (the majority of which were attacked, stalked, threatened, harrasses, and assulted).

Many low-income people were housed in multi story complexes that were patrolled by Police looking to enhance their pay (quota/reward system operates in Canberra). The DHCS ACT HOUSING officers (called Housing Managers) were able to make tenancy visits without notice, and take motor vehical details.

To manage complaints and deaths caused by the ACT Government Social Housing; The ACT Government funded select community groups to aid in the removal of services by provision of a lessor service (if not outright removal in exahange for 2 lts of Milk, BBQ, etc) to be provided from select community units reserved in major housing complexes for community uses.

The Social Housing was apart of a Police drug operation where tenants could earn over $1000 for getting another tenant convicted of a criminal offence (where the Government would then evict the convicted tenant to enhance the cycle of poverty, and pay $1000 to a tenant who 'visit' the evicted tenants compeditor/s).

The community rooms in a few major complexes have been over run by intoxicated Police informers (and a few complexes only have police informers living in them with the rest of the units being empty for periods of more than 2 years). The Social Housing Police infomers were able to gain better voting rights and more Government payment for making many false reports against other tenants (and in some cases, to threaten, intimidate, discriminate against other tenancies whilst being intoxicated in a public space without charge or arrest).

The Socail Housing scheme has now concluded; And tenants are no longer assigned housing for Ministers' Political pleasure while their Political party accepts another secret donation for a con job well done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.138.240.120 (talk) 13:54, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]