Talk:Professional mourning
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[edit]- Paid mourners in Scotland. Wills in Scotland, from decedents from Sir John Graham (Bright Sword, right hand man of Wallace, etc, likely the brains behind the battle of Stirling Bridge, died in Falkirk), often include compensation for mourning. I dont understand the service. It might be for a Eulegy, or it might be to watch the grave, it might be superstition, or something we dont understand. It might get confusing with some of the Graham's wills because they get the last word on some arguments, via their wills, sometimes it seems a bit tounge-in-cheek. One of the Graham's defined the compensation for mourning, but also left a case alcohol for someone whom attacked others for drinking too much. The mix of serious and humor in their wills might make them more difficult to understand. There are lots of documents about the Graham's, as they were large landholders in Scotland, especially after Sir John Graham died at Falkirk, and Robert the Bruce granted his son lands for his service. 162.72.225.8 (talk) 14:25, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Issues with descriptions of professional mourners in modern and ancient China
[edit]I fear the whole section on professional mourners in ancient China may have to be excised. The section quotes a book which at one point describes performances of zaju and Romance of the Three Kingdoms (a fictional work) at funerals; in other words, the quotes are about actors rather than people mourning for money. The other source the section uses has a brief history of wailing in ancient China. The source does not specify if wailing was done by professional mourners, but it seems to implying that hiring people to wail is a more modern practice?
As to the part about professional mourning in modern China, one portion includes an example eulogy performed by professional mourners ("Why did you leave us so soon?...We’re so sorry we could not keep you here") The article originally cited a piece by Louisa Lim, but it does not appear anywhere in the written portion of piece, so I added a citation needed template. Her piece does include some untranslated audio from a funeral with professional mourners; is the quotation a translation of that? Still-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-Butter (talk) 02:56, 9 November 2023 (UTC)