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Reviewer: Mkativerata

I'm going to review this because the subject matter is up my alley, I have access to a few of the sources, and its been unreviewed for some time now. As an initial comment, it's great to see that the article sticks to secondary sources. In my view, some "legal concept" articles stray well into the territory of original research by directly citing (ie analysing) case law as sources for particular propositions. I will be doing a more detailed review over the next few days. --Mkativerata (talk) 02:24, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks kindly! I've often seen it; one law editor who dabbles IRL actually remarked that textbooks aren't valid sources for working out what a particular case decided! Absurd, but there you have it. Ironholds (talk) 19:55, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here are my comments - just a few small issues to resolve:

1. Well written

  • There are some MOS issues, particularly:
    • the use of hyphens instead of em dashes or colons; and
    • gender neutral language (except when quoting directly from a judgment)
But these MOS issues are not relevant to the GA criteria.
  • Some minor issues for fixing:

**In what court was Tweddle v Atkinson decided? This might be useful to the reader as it seems to have settled a 200 year dispute.

      • No idea, I'm afraid. I'd hazard a guess at the Court of Common Pleas, since that was where common disputes went, but under the Writ of Quominus (my article) the Court of Exchequer could handle the cases; the Court of King's Bench developed a similar legal fiction.

**”Detel paint” - better as “paint produced by Detel Products”? This is the first time we hear of Detel.

**”An agency relationship is between three parties - A principal...” “A principal” should be decapitalised.

**”an Act/act of Parliament”. When referring to an Act/act generally, as opposed to a specific act, make the capitalisation consistent throughout.

**Likewise, when referring to a specific act (eg “the full provisions of the act” vs “Section 1 of the Act”), capitalise consistently.

**Footnotes 10, 13, 15 and 16 aren't linked to the bibliography but the rest are.

  • Some prose that could be imprroved (eg redundant words), but doesn't have to be fixed here as I think it meets the GA standard of “clear”
  • The lead section is very good.


2. Factually accurate and verifiable

  • As stated above, the use of secondary sources is excellent. A wide range is used. I have only been able to access Treitel (2003) and AGF use of the others.
  • A few minor issues:
    • ”For this reason, various sociological or economic arguments have been used.”: doesn't seem to be supported by footnote 10 as Atiyah seems to give only one sociological or economic argument.
      Fixed. Ironholds (talk) 19:38, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • ”These exceptions, however, were extremely limited in how they could be used.”: perhaps a valid summary of what comes below, but without a source, it seems to be commentary, especially with the “extremely”.
      Fixed. Ironholds (talk) 19:38, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • ”and in light of the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 the use of this is likely to decrease”: I think it would be better to say something like “has been predicted to decrease”.
      Fixed. Ironholds (talk) 19:38, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • ”Certain elements of the doctrine of agency do clash with privity” - better as “have been said to clash”?
      Fixed. Ironholds (talk) 19:38, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • ”This was first established in Donoghue v Stevenson” I couldn't find a reference to this in the Treitel source.
      Odd. I have a new edition of the book (published 07, I think); I may have accidentally picked that up. In any case, since I can't verify (I'm at uni, and ironically have no access to my stockpile of contract textbooks) I've cut that out. Ironholds (talk) 19:38, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

3. Coverage

  • The article is an appropriate length for the subject and achieves an appropriate balance between the common law and legislation.

4. Neutral

  • No issues here. The impression given to the reader is that privity is a bad doctrine, but that's not because of any POV in the article. It's all well-sourced and balanced.

5. Stable

  • Yes.

6. Images

  • None would be appropriate.

--Mkativerata (talk) 19:33, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All done, and passed. Top stuff. --Mkativerata (talk) 19:56, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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