Talk:Pricot de Sainte-Marie steles

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Publication

User:Onceinawhile, User:Hans van Deukeren, do any of you know if the recovered stelae from 1994 were published in the CIS or somewhere else? Unfortunately, the sources within my reach are all prior to 1994. פעמי-עליון (talk) 20:39, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi פעמי-עליון, the best article I have access to is: Laporte, Jean-Pierre (2017-04-10). "Les Pricot de Sainte-Marie, père et fils, et l'archéologie de la Tunisie et de Carthage". Academia.edu (in French).

Laporte was the amateur historian whose interest catalyzed the rediscovery. I am not sure if he went on to write a whole book. Onceinawhile (talk) 21:06, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, but I did not completely understand if the inscription that sunk and recovered recently are those which were published in CIS (perhaps with impressions of the stelae), or only those which were recovered shortly after the sinking? פעמי-עליון (talk) 22:55, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is a sentence near the CIS section which says "Pricot de Sainte-Marie had taken stampings of all the steles he excavated, and had sent these to France prior to the sinking of the Magenta. They were later compiled and published in the Corpus Inscriptionum Semiticarum." I will add it to the lede.Onceinawhile (talk) 11:57, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, it's good to know they're all published and (mostly) easy to access. Thank you for the clarification. פעמי-עליון (talk) 21:37, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Overlap

Sections "Examples of inscriptions" and "Later concordances" show appreciable overlap. By moving the "(Year) Discovered" and "Location found" data to the "Examples of inscriptions" section, the "Later concordances" section would become superfluous, and might be cancelled, effectively fusing both sections into one. However, if anyone should want to add more items to the "Later concordances" section, that section should remain where it is. For that reason I have left the "Later concordances" section intact for the time being. Hans van Deukeren (talk) 20:46, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree fusing them would be good. Onceinawhile (talk) 21:07, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

‘BDMLKT

Hans van Deukeren, why did you write that ‘BDMLKT is Abdmilqart? There is a big difference in Semitic languages between K and Q, and between MLKT ("the queen", Astarte) and MLQRT ("the king of THE city"). Is it explained in the sources? פעמי-עליון (talk) 23:02, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are 100% right. Krahmalkov, Punic Dictionary, p. 93, translates ‘BDMLKT as Abdmilqart, but that must be a slip of his pen, that I copied inadvertently. The two names are of course different, as Krahmalkov himself states on p. 356 of his dictionary. I will correct the error. Thanks for your attentiveness! Hans van Deukeren (talk) 10:49, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Great, Thank you! פעמי-עליון (talk) 10:58, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I haven’t had the chance to thank you for your great contributions @Hans van Deukeren @פעמי-עליון. You exemplify collaboration for the betterment of Canaan and Phoenicia-related articles. el.ziade (talkallam) 11:06, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Hans is a great contributer and I rely on him in many of my edits in the Hebrew Wikipedia, I am happy to help him expend the Canaanite topics in the English Wikipedia wherever I can. פעמי-עליון (talk) 11:17, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]