Talk:COVID-19

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the COVID-19 article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find medical sources: Source guidelines · PubMed · Cochrane · DOAJ · Gale · OpenMD · ScienceDirect · Springer · Trip · Wiley · TWL

Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20: 21 days

COVID-19 Top‑importance

	COVID-19 portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject COVID-19, a project to coordinate efforts to improve all COVID-19-related articles. If you would like to help, you are invited to join and to participate in project discussions.COVID-19Wikipedia:WikiProject COVID-19Template:WikiProject COVID-19COVID-19 articles
Top	This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.

Disaster management Top‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Disaster management, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Disaster management on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Disaster managementWikipedia:WikiProject Disaster managementTemplate:WikiProject Disaster managementDisaster management articles
Top	This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.

Medicine: Emergency / Pulmonology Top‑importance

	Medicine portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Medicine, which recommends that medicine-related articles follow the Manual of Style for medicine-related articles and that biomedical information in any article use high-quality medical sources. Please visit the project page for details or ask questions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine.MedicineWikipedia:WikiProject MedicineTemplate:WikiProject Medicinemedicine articles
Top	This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Emergency medicine and EMS task force (assessed as Top-importance).
	This article is supported by the Pulmonology task force (assessed as High-importance).

Molecular Biology High‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Molecular Biology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Molecular Biology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Molecular BiologyWikipedia:WikiProject Molecular BiologyTemplate:WikiProject Molecular BiologyMolecular Biology articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the importance scale.

Viruses Top‑importance

	Viruses portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Viruses, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of viruses on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.VirusesWikipedia:WikiProject VirusesTemplate:WikiProject Virusesvirus articles
Top	This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.

China Mid‑importance

	China portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject China, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of China related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ChinaWikipedia:WikiProject ChinaTemplate:WikiProject ChinaChina-related articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Warning: active arbitration remedies

The contentious topics procedure applies to this article. This article is related to COVID-19, broadly construed, which is a contentious topic. Furthermore, the following rules apply when editing this article:

Editors are prohibited from adding preprints as sources for content in this article.

Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page.

Page history

A news item involving COVID-19 was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 11 March 2020.

Wikipedia

This article has been mentioned by multiple media organizations:

Omer Benjakob (February 9, 2020). "On Wikipedia, a fight is raging over coronavirus disinformation". Wired (magazine). Retrieved February 9, 2020. While a short and generic Wikipedia page on "coronavirus" had existed since 2013, the article about the "2019–20 Wuhan coronavirus outbreak" was created on January 5, 2020. Four days later, a new article was spun off from it, dedicated solely to the "Novel coronavirus" – officially known as 2019-nCoV. Yet another was created in February to detail the symptoms of the respiratory disease caused by the virus.
Noam Cohen (15 February 2020). "How Wikipedia Prevents the Spread of Coronavirus Misinformation". Wired. Retrieved 15 February 2020. His point, and it's really indisputable, is that this mammoth online project has developed a personality, a purpose, a soul. Now, as the new coronavirus outbreak plays out across its many pages, we can see that Wikipedia has also developed a conscience.
Donald G. McNeil, Jr. (October 22, 2020). "Wikipedia and W.H.O. Join to Combat Covid Misinformation". The New York Times.

Text has been copied to or from this article; see the list below. The source pages now serve to provide attribution for the content in the destination pages and must not be deleted as long as the copies exist. For attribution and to access older versions of the copied text, please see the history links below.

Copied Novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) (oldid, history) → 2019-nCoV acute respiratory disease (diff)
Copied Novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) (oldid, history) → 2019-nCoV acute respiratory disease (diff)
Copied 2019–20 Wuhan coronavirus outbreak (oldid, history) → 2019-nCoV acute respiratory disease (diff)

This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.

Discussions:

RM, 2019-nCoV acute respiratory disease → Coronavirus disease 2019, Moved, 12 February 2020, Discussion
RM, Coronavirus disease 2019 → COVID-19, Not moved (WP:SNOW), 24 April 2020, Discussion
RM, Coronavirus disease 2019 → COVID-19, Not moved, 16 September 2020, Discussion
- MRV, Reclosed as no consensus, 21 November 2020, Discussion
RM, Coronavirus disease 2019 → COVID-19, Moved, 3 March 2021, Discussion

This article has been viewed enough times in a single year to make it into the Top 50 Report annual list. This happened in 2020, when it received 21,672,589 views.

Section sizes

Section size for COVID-19 (65 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	15,325	15,325
Nomenclature	6,527	6,527
Symptoms and signs	159	10,191
Complications	10,032	10,032
Cause	480	14,505
Transmission	283	283
Virology	6,367	6,367
SARS-CoV-2 variants	7,375	7,375
Pathophysiology	1,865	37,289
Respiratory tract	1,977	1,977
Nervous system	7,244	7,244
Gastrointestinal tract	1,019	1,019
Cardiovascular system	6,390	6,390
Kidneys	599	599
Immunopathology	6,870	6,870
Viral and host factors	31	4,969
Virus proteins	1,947	1,947
Host factors	2,991	2,991
Host cytokine response	2,877	2,877
Pregnancy response	3,479	3,479
Diagnosis	1,811	16,639
Viral testing	6,570	6,570
Imaging	3,920	3,920
Coding	895	895
Pathology	3,443	3,443
Prevention	7,655	29,707
Vaccine	988	988
Face masks and respiratory hygiene	301	301
Indoor ventilation and avoiding crowded indoor spaces	3,657	3,657
Hand-washing and hygiene	2,620	2,620
Social distancing	2,275	2,275
Surface cleaning	8,972	8,972
Self-isolation	1,776	1,776
International travel-related control measures	1,463	1,463
Treatment	326	326
Prognosis and risk factors	13,986	36,667
Genetic risk factors	10,074	10,074
Children	3,587	3,587
Long-term effects	4,362	4,362
Immunity	4,658	4,658
Mortality	3,787	40,451
Case fatality rate	2,132	2,132
Infection fatality rate	2,259	9,991
Estimates	3,183	3,183
Earlier estimates of IFR	4,549	4,549
Sex differences	12,631	12,631
Ethnic differences	5,934	5,934
Comorbidities	5,976	5,976
History	33,687	33,687
Misinformation	2,244	2,244
Other species	6,668	6,668
Research	3,082	37,846
Transmission and prevention research	4,911	4,911
Treatment-related research	12,304	24,162
Cytokine storm	7,679	7,679
Passive antibodies	4,179	4,179
Bioethics	5,691	5,691
See also	604	604
References	1,358	1,358
Further reading	725	725
External links	44	4,280
Health agencies	541	541
Directories	418	418
Medical journals	987	987
Treatment guidelines	2,290	2,290
Total	295,039	295,039

The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:

We know a lot about Covid-19. Experts have many more questions

Ideal sources for Wikipedia's health content are defined in the guideline Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine) and are typically review articles. Here are links to possibly useful sources of information about COVID-19.

PubMed provides review articles from the past five years (limit to free review articles)
The TRIP database provides clinical publications about evidence-based medicine.
Other potential sources include: Centre for Reviews and Dissemination and CDC

WikiProject COVID-19 consensus

WikiProject COVID-19 aims to add to and build consensus for pages relating to COVID-19. They have so far discussed items listed below. Please discuss proposed improvements to them at the project talk page.

General

Superseded by TfD October 2020 and later practice - consult regular {{Current}} guidance.

Refrain from using Worldometer (worldometers.info) as a source due to common errors being observed as noted on the Case Count Task Force common errors page. (April 2020, April 2020)

For infoboxes on the main articles of countries, use Wuhan, Hubei, China for the origin parameter. (March 2020)

"Social distancing" is generally preferred over "physical distancing". (April 2020, May 2020)

Page title

COVID-19 (full caps) is preferable in the body of all articles, and in the title of all articles/category pages/etc.(RM April 2020, including the main article itself, RM March 2021).

SARS-CoV-2 (exact capitalisation and punctuation) is the common name of the virus and should be used for the main article's title, as well as in the body of all articles, and in the title of all other articles/category pages/etc. (June 2022, overturning April 2020)

Map

There is no consensus about which color schemes to use, but they should be consistent within articles as much as possible. There is agreement that there should be six levels of shading, plus gray for areas with no instances or no data. (May 2020)

There is no consensus about whether the legend, the date, and other elements should appear in the map image itself. (May 2020)

For map legends, ranges should use fixed round numbers (as opposed to updating dynamically). There is no consensus on what base population to use for per capita maps. (May 2020)

To ensure you are viewing the current list, you may wish to purge this page.

This article is written in Hong Kong English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, realise, travelled) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

Section sizes

Section size for COVID-19 (65 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	15,325	15,325
Nomenclature	6,527	6,527
Symptoms and signs	159	10,191
Complications	10,032	10,032
Cause	480	14,505
Transmission	283	283
Virology	6,367	6,367
SARS-CoV-2 variants	7,375	7,375
Pathophysiology	1,865	37,289
Respiratory tract	1,977	1,977
Nervous system	7,244	7,244
Gastrointestinal tract	1,019	1,019
Cardiovascular system	6,390	6,390
Kidneys	599	599
Immunopathology	6,870	6,870
Viral and host factors	31	4,969
Virus proteins	1,947	1,947
Host factors	2,991	2,991
Host cytokine response	2,877	2,877
Pregnancy response	3,479	3,479
Diagnosis	1,811	16,639
Viral testing	6,570	6,570
Imaging	3,920	3,920
Coding	895	895
Pathology	3,443	3,443
Prevention	7,655	29,707
Vaccine	988	988
Face masks and respiratory hygiene	301	301
Indoor ventilation and avoiding crowded indoor spaces	3,657	3,657
Hand-washing and hygiene	2,620	2,620
Social distancing	2,275	2,275
Surface cleaning	8,972	8,972
Self-isolation	1,776	1,776
International travel-related control measures	1,463	1,463
Treatment	326	326
Prognosis and risk factors	13,986	36,667
Genetic risk factors	10,074	10,074
Children	3,587	3,587
Long-term effects	4,362	4,362
Immunity	4,658	4,658
Mortality	3,787	40,451
Case fatality rate	2,132	2,132
Infection fatality rate	2,259	9,991
Estimates	3,183	3,183
Earlier estimates of IFR	4,549	4,549
Sex differences	12,631	12,631
Ethnic differences	5,934	5,934
Comorbidities	5,976	5,976
History	33,687	33,687
Misinformation	2,244	2,244
Other species	6,668	6,668
Research	3,082	37,846
Transmission and prevention research	4,911	4,911
Treatment-related research	12,304	24,162
Cytokine storm	7,679	7,679
Passive antibodies	4,179	4,179
Bioethics	5,691	5,691
See also	604	604
References	1,358	1,358
Further reading	725	725
External links	44	4,280
Health agencies	541	541
Directories	418	418
Medical journals	987	987
Treatment guidelines	2,290	2,290
Total	295,039	295,039

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 September 2024

It is requested that an edit be made to the extended-confirmed-protected article at COVID-19. (edit · history · last · links · protection log)

This template must be followed by a complete and specific description of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y".

The edit may be made by any extended confirmed user. Remember to change the |answered=no parameter to "yes" when the request has been accepted, rejected or on hold awaiting user input. This is so that inactive or completed requests don't needlessly fill up the edit requests category. You may also wish to use the {{EEp}} template in the response. To request that a page be protected or unprotected, make a protection request.

Changing this:

"A low level of blood lymphocytess may result from the virus acting through ACE2-related entry into lymphocytes.[157]"

to the following:

"COVID-19 can lower lymphocyte presence in blood and can be a valuable prognostic marker. This lymphopenia may be caused by several factors, including at least lymphocyte trafficking (especially to the lungs and large bowel)[add1][add2] and possibly direct infection through the ACE2 receptor.[157]"

[add1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9050483/

[add2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8473169/

The reason for this change is that there is well-recorded evidence as above that the lymphopenia is not only due to direct infection, and a consensus is not clear on what the primary cause of lymphopenia in COVID-19 is. There's clear cut evidence of it for trafficking, but the direct infection causing apoptosis is less clear but commonly posited in research. Noahkahn (talk) 07:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article as a YouTube "Information Panel"

the first two sentences of the lede is used extensively as a so-called "Information Panel," (which also provides a link to the article) on YouTube videos that discuss Covid-19.

As this garners considerable traffic and even more viewer impressions on YouTube, it seems inappropriate to include the first known case being in Wuhan within that very brief opening. Similarly, the article could say within the first two sentences that viralogists from Wuhan, China were the first to publicly identify the virus. (To be clear, I propose neither be included in the first two sentences of the lede and am just mentioning that to demonstrate the potential implications for framing such minutiae in portion of the lede that gets used for fact-checking purposes). The importance of Wuhan, China to the article of Covid-19 should be lower in the lede, or arguably not included in the lede at all.

For the sake of both prioritizing the most important facts within the article, as well as maintaining appropriate brief descriptions used by off-site platforms, I propose that the second sentence should be changed to discuss the severity, ie the spread and lethality, of the virus.

If you have opposing or alternative thoughts on the first two sentences, I am interested in hearing them. 2601:5CF:8000:6B60:4010:2BF9:AAE6:C475 (talk) 16:00, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

thank you for posting--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 17:45, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bad list of treatments

In the "treatment" section, image "An_overview_of_COVID-19_therapeutics.." lists Ivermectin, Chloroquine, which I know have been debunked. OsamaBinLogin (talk) 15:17, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]