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Reviewer: Grungaloo (talk · contribs) 23:42, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TenPoundHammer, I'm gong to take this review up. I might make some copyedits as I go, so please review those and revert any you disagree with. Otherwise I'll ping you shortly once I've finished! grungaloo (talk) 23:42, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
    Some minor clarity issues, and the lead needs a few additions, see comments. Layout is good.
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
    Some sources, like Game Show Network, are flagged as questionable, but they're only used for minor uncontroversial details. No copyvio detected. International version section is missing sources or source validation failed, see comment.
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
    Good coverage of facts, nothing it omitted that I would expect to be there.
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
    Meets NPOV
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
    There's some bad edits coming from IPs that get reverted, but this doesn't seem to be impacting stability and there's a few established editors monitoring this from what I can see.
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
    Images are good, no usage issues.
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Comments

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Refs 1,5,25,27 all good

  • I'd expect the lead to mention Michael Larson, and it seems to be missing any mentions of international versions and merchandise. Could you add those in?
  • Before I go further, I notice that the gameplay section is virutally entirely unsourced. Looking at other gameshow GAs Wheel of Fortune (American game show), Who Wants to Be a Millionaire (American game show), there doesn't seem to be a consistent expectation for this. Are you able to point me to any relevant discussion on the Television wikiproject that maybe gives guidance here?
  • @Grungaloo: I added Larson, international versions, and video game adaptations to the lead. It's my understanding that a summary of a game show's rules is the equivalent of a plot summary of a movie or episodic TV series, so sourcing is not mandatory because the work itself is understood to be the source. I only did it on the Wheel of Fortune article due to that show having a large number of rules that have changed over time. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 16:42, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TenPoundHammer Ok that's what I figured. I imagine finding a source that clearly lays out the rules is almost impossible too. Thanks for clarifying! I'll finish the review and ping you. grungaloo (talk) 16:51, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • On January 6, 1986, CBS relocated Press Your Luck - When you say relocated, I think you mean they changed the time slot right? I'd change it to say "changed the time slot" or something, otherwise it sounds like they physically relocated the set.
  • with up to 32 new patterns - Do you have an exact number here? It seems odd to say "up to 32" when there must have been a set number of new patterns. Could also try rewriting it like "with over 30 new patters" or something.
  • after this, GSN aired episodes from the 1984 - This is the only place you use GSN in this section, I'd suggest changing it to Game Show Network to be consistent (or swap them all to GSN).
  • On July 2, 2018, reruns - Not required for GA, but you could probably just join this to the previous paragraph.
  • International versions - There's some sourcing issues in this section. Only the Australian and UK versions have sources, and the source for the UK version doesn't mention the show at all from what i can tell. Could you please find sources for this info please?
  • An Australian version, with Ian Turpie as host and John Deeks as announcer, on Seven Network from 1987 to 1988. - I think a word is missing, "aired on Seven Network..."?
  • A dsots game based on the 2019 format was also released, - What's dsots? Could you wikilink or add a quick explanation for it?
  • In September 2012, Ludia released Press Your Luck Slots on Facebook - Not required for GA, but again could join this sentence to the previous paragraph.


Hi again TenPoundHammer. I've finished my review. There's a few minor prose issues, and the lead could use a few more things. The bigger issues is the international version section - it's lacking sources for a lot of claims and one of the sources that is there only validates part of what it needs to. I'm hoping that's not an insurmountable issue, since it's mostly just claims of who hosted it and when it aired I'd expect those aren't too difficult to find. Let me know how it goes! grungaloo (talk) 23:13, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think I sourced all the international versions, at least the ones explicitly mentioned in the text. I also made a few more minor tweaks at your request. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 23:26, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks great, thanks! Congrats on GA. grungaloo (talk) 01:47, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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