Talk:Poundland/Archive 1
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Store listings
Can someone who knows the geography of the UK please sort the store list out like it it at the top? The website is http://www.poundland.co.uk, and all stores are copied (with the corresponding breaks) from the 'Contact' section. --Killfest2 04:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Just why does Wikipedia need a list of every Poundland store? Since we don't list every McDonald's or Planet Hollywood store we shouldn't be doing it here - it is not Wikipedia's place to provide free advertising. Their website has a storefinder and this article has a link to them - that should be enough. Unless someone can provide an extremely good reason to keep the list I suggest it be scrapped. Fanx 08:55, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree. Let's stop wikipedia turning into a version of the Thompsons Directory.--The globetrotter 19:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
NPOV
I've reverted the page to remove this recently added section: Poundland is extremely popular with school children (many of whom recieve a £1 per week allowance) who take advantage of the low prices and conversely, take advantage of the store's image as "tacky" to taunt eachother i.e.: " x buys her clothes from Poundland! " The latter practice is a device employed by middle class children to those who are poorer. Whilst admittedly pretty funny, and added by a user who does not seem to be a vandal, it's irrelevant to the page when stated in this way. I don't think the children would shop 'to take advantage of the prices', nor is there much chance that £1 is an likely amount for pocket money. You're spot on with the taunts though, but if we add this here, we'd have to add it to Primark, Poundstretcher, and, with reference to 15 Storeys High, create a page for that's not your Mum, that's your Gran. Hmmn, you may have a point here :-)--The globetrotter 21:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Americanisms
I'm not too sure about the recent edit giving an Americanised slant on the text- 'Dollar Store' etc. Is this really a necessary revision? As a UK based chain the current UK slant of 'Poundland is a pound shop and everything there costs a pound' is reasonably understandable should a wiki user in the USA view this article, i'm sure they would most likely be able to understand the distinction and compare Poundland to 'dollar stores' themselves. If anything, the current edit inserts the information concerning 'dollar stores' rather clumsily and leaves me wondering if Poundland is an American concern or an extension of a US multinational. Any thoughts? May well revert the text if there's no comments on this in the next few days. --The globetrotter 12:12, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
- I agre - removed!! Good spot globetrotter :D --Errant Tmorton166(Talk)(Review me) 12:51, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
- I put back the term "dollar store"in the article, because it is the descriptive term for that type of shop. In the article about the 100-yen shops in Japan, it says "Such shops are analogous to dollar stores in the United States.", meaning it is rather like the American dollar stores. 159753 20:46, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, a fair point, but it's expressed in a more distinct way in that article. Here it seems to me to indicate an American worldview in that it makes the American comparison explicit rather than simply comparative. Is it really necessary to make the distinction anyway? I had never heard the term 'dollar store' before reading the article (honestly), but I nevertheless understood that it probably was a store selling items for a dollar. It's my opinion that if the dollar store entry contains comparative statements noting the similarity of both 100-yen shops and pound shops, then it would be fair to place this analogous note here; wiki doesn't necessarily need to be that explanitory, does it? --The globetrotter 19:57, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Stores outside the UK?
Which countries, other than the UK, does Poundland operate in? The article describes Poundland as a UK-based retailer, but then goes on to say that it is branded as "Euroland" within the Eurozone. 217.155.20.163 20:27, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- OK, I've now deleted the "Euroland" claim, as there's nothing on Poundland's website about it, and Google doesn't turn up anything relevant. If anyone can provide a source for the claim, please do so. 217.155.20.163 20:34, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
GA Review
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GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
This article is in decent shape, but it needs more work before it becomes a Good Article.
- Is it well written?
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- Well done.
- B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
- Why are "April 2000" and "September 2008" linked? In the Formation section, the link "Meadowhall" needs to be linked correctly. In the Management section, "Safeway" needs to be corrected. I believe that in the Products offered section, "DIY" is linked wrong, this is me. If its not, that's my bad there. Same section, "Colgate" and "Walkers" link. Dates need to be unlinked, per here. In the Health and safety section, why is "February 2006" linked?
- Done - I've made amendments to these links as suggested (fixed the disambig pages, added a few more I noticed whilst doing so, and delinked the dates). The DIY link I can't see an issue with (unless you mean the redirect), and the disambig page for it lists other articles which aren't relevant. Bungle (talk • contribs) 21:30, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- Check. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 23:58, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Done - I've made amendments to these links as suggested (fixed the disambig pages, added a few more I noticed whilst doing so, and delinked the dates). The DIY link I can't see an issue with (unless you mean the redirect), and the disambig page for it lists other articles which aren't relevant. Bungle (talk • contribs) 21:30, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- Why are "April 2000" and "September 2008" linked? In the Formation section, the link "Meadowhall" needs to be linked correctly. In the Management section, "Safeway" needs to be corrected. I believe that in the Products offered section, "DIY" is linked wrong, this is me. If its not, that's my bad there. Same section, "Colgate" and "Walkers" link. Dates need to be unlinked, per here. In the Health and safety section, why is "February 2006" linked?
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
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- Some references are not formatted and some are. There needs to be a consistency usage of the refs. Also, References 1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 10, 11, 16, 17, 20, 23, 24, 25, and 27 are missing Publisher info.
- Done - I've made all remaining references consistant and added dates where available. Also some additional info has been added to the article and sourced appropriately. Bungle (talk • contribs) 17:11, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
- Half-check. Reference 19 is missing Publisher info. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 23:58, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Whoops - well spotted. Converted to template with publisher info now so that should be all refs done. Bungle (talk • contribs) 07:01, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Check. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 15:35, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Whoops - well spotted. Converted to template with publisher info now so that should be all refs done. Bungle (talk • contribs) 07:01, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Half-check. Reference 19 is missing Publisher info. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 23:58, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Done - I've made all remaining references consistant and added dates where available. Also some additional info has been added to the article and sourced appropriately. Bungle (talk • contribs) 17:11, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
- Some references are not formatted and some are. There needs to be a consistency usage of the refs. Also, References 1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 10, 11, 16, 17, 20, 23, 24, 25, and 27 are missing Publisher info.
- B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
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- D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
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- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
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- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
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- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
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- If the statements above can be answered, I will pass the article. Good luck with improving this article!
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-- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 20:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you to Bungle for getting the stuff I left at the talk page, because I have gone off and placed the article as GA. Congrats. ;) -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 15:35, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Excellent! Thanks very much :) Bungle (talk • contribs) 16:37, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
GA with a NPOV tag
I had a look at the section this tag is on and it does seem quite a bit promotional. In fact the whole first paragraph of the sales strategy is not really neutral. We can't havr a Good article with a valid NPOV tag, so I will give a chance for interested editors to address the issue first or will have to initiate a WP:GAR. AIRcorn (talk) 12:25, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
- Only the Business Practice section is tagged. Personally I think the section is reasonably neutral - I've read many retail articles which appear to have been written by company PR people and they're not tagged in the same way, though admittedly they're not GAs either. I vote to simply remove the tag. --Ef80 (talk) 21:13, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- The first sentence in the sales stategy is "Poundland's biggest sales advantage is their price consistency across all products". That is clear advertisment speak and not at all encyclopaedic. I don't think removing the tag in the current state is an option. AIRcorn (talk) 21:20, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
I have gone ahead and delisted. The article was listed for review in November and the problem has yet to be solved. Once it is fixed, this article is otherwise in good shape to be returned to GA status. Safiel (talk) 15:40, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
removing POV tag with no active discussion per Template:POV
I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
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Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 (talk) 12:10, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Geopolitical dislocation
"In 2 August 2011, Poundland announced that it is going to expand into mainland Europe, under the name D€ALZ. The first 6 new stores have opened in Republic of Ireland, creating 120 jobs.[43] A store in the Isle of Man opened in December 2011.[44] Dealz has also expanded to other parts of the UK offering Poundland products for £1 and £1.20. In September 2012 a store opened in Kirkwall, Orkney"
Given that neither the Republic of Ireland, nor the Isle of Man are in the UK, saying that Dealz has "expanded to other parts of the UK" is non-sensical.
178.167.254.198 (talk) 15:30, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
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