Talk:Ponce de Leon Springs (Atlanta)

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A fact from Ponce de Leon Springs (Atlanta) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 18 October 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Ponce de Leon Springs in Atlanta was named in reference to the legend of Juan Ponce de León's search for the Fountain of Youth due to the spring water's supposed health benefits?

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Merge with Ponce de Leon amusement park

I have recently requested that information from the page Ponce de Leon amusement park be merged into the page Ponce de Leon Springs (Atlanta). I have recently significantly expanded the article for Ponce de Leon Springs (Atlanta) and in doing so believe that all of the relevant information on Ponce de Leon amusement park can be captured in a subsection of the other article, making the amusement park article redundant. As it stands now, that article is a stub, and having done some digging into references for that article, I believe it would be best to merge. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 21:31, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, merge with redirect, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 01:18, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 17:08, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Ponce de Leon Springs in Atlanta was named in reference to the legend of Juan Ponce de León's search for the Fountain of Youth due to the spring water's supposed health benefits? Source: Southern Spaces
- ALT1: ... that an amusement park built at Ponce de Leon Springs in Atlanta was nicknamed "the Coney Island of Atlanta"? Source: Southern Spaces The Spatula, p. 8
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Songbird Sings

5x expanded by JJonahJackalope (talk). Self-nominated at 21:51, 15 September 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall:

Outstanding research, with compelling prose. No Swan So Fine (talk) 09:32, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Unexpectedlydian (talk · contribs) 20:26, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I'll be reviewing this article using the table below. Comments to follow soon :) Unexpectedlydian^♯4 talk^‽ 20:26, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @JJonahJackalope, I have completed a first review. Thank you for your work on this great article - brilliantly researched and an interesting read! Please let me know if you have any questions about what I've written. I'll put the article on hold now. Unexpectedlydian^♯4 talk^‽ 22:40, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Unexpectedlydian, I just wanted to reach out to let you know that I have made some edits to the article to address the points you made in this review. Apologies for the long time it took me to get to this, I'd been busy during the holidays, but thank you for reviewing the article, and if you have any further questions, comments, or concerns, please let me know. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 19:38, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@JJonahJackalope Thanks so much for addressing the comments so clearly! Hope you had a nice time on your holidays. Very happy to promote this to GA now :) Unexpectedlydian^♯4 talk^‽ 20:26, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	A few comments below. I will check prose again at the end of the review. Lead Around the turn of the century, the land surrounding the spring was developed into an amusement park, though by the 1920s, the amusement park was demolished and the area was developed for industrial and, later, commercial properties. This is quite a long sentence. Maybe split into two? For example: Around the turn of the century, the land surrounding the spring was developed into an amusement park. By the 1920s, the amusement park was demolished and the area was developed for industrial and, later, commercial properties. ~~Done.~~ Early history As a result of the water's mineral quality, it was considered medicinal and good for health. As a result, in the 1860s ... Repetition of "as a result" could be avoided. Maybe something like: The water was considered medicinal and good for health because of its mineral quality. As a result, in the 1860s ... ~~Done.~~ Popularity as a trolley park ~~Three out of the first four sentences begin with "By [date]", maybe this could be changed to make the prose read a bit better?~~ ~~Edited prose to enhance readability.~~
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	Lead sections ~~Not sure if "United States" is necessary in the first sentence. If it is, maybe the sentence could be changed to Ponce de Leon Springs was a mineral spring in Atlanta, Georgia, in the United States.~~ ~~Edited this sentence.~~ Layout Does the article need an authority control tag? Apologies, but I'm not sure about this. I haven't dealt with authority controls too much and am not that familiar with the process, but if you feel that one is necessary, I can add it. No worries, I've just read Wikipedia:Authority control and it says The entries typically correspond to people, book titles, and similar well-defined entities, so maybe it's not crucial for this article. Words to watch None identified Fiction N/A List incorporation N/A
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	There are a lot of references to Toton 2008. Looking at the first few sentences of the Purchase by the Atlanta Street Railway section, for example, I'm not sure if you need to cite every sentence with [5]. I'm not an expert on style guides though, so if you have an idea of how to maybe reduce the clutter of citations do let me know! Maybe by grouping together a few sentences at a time which contain related information? ~~Grouped together multiple sentences with the same citation to reduce clutter.~~ References to sources are in the correct place.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Source check I've checked all the sources I have access to, only a few very minor comments :) Zaring, Russell A. (Fall 1987) Y McMahon, Doreen (October 1944) Y Partridge 1951 Y Clarke 1881 Y Toton 2008 Henry L. Wilson, a retired physician from Atlanta, named the spring the Ponce de Leon Springs as a reference to the legend of Spanish explorer Juan Ponce de León and his search for the Fountain of Youth. I don't think the source explicitly states that it is named after the explorer and his search for the fountain of youth? ~~Added source (Johnson 2020) that explicitly states the reason for the springs' name.~~ Harper's New Monthly Magazine 1879 Y Williamson & Dunham-Jones 2021 Y King 1939 Y Irvine 1938 Y Herrick & LeGrand 1949 Y Peale 1886 Y Janes 1876 Y Wright 1938 Y Davis 2013 sfn links to Davis 2012, so should be changed to correct the date. I also can't see any pp. xxvii–xxviii? Apologies here, but I accidentally cited the wrong book. I meant to cite a 2012 book by Davis & Davis, but I must have gotten that mixed up with the 2013 Davis book. I've updated the references section with the correct book and have edited the citation appropriately. Additionally, the 2013 Davis book, which contained some information on the springs, has been moved to the Further reading section. Klima 1982 Y MacDougald 1940 Y Garrett 1981 Y Grant 1993 Y
	2c. it contains no original research.	Everything is properly cited in the article.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	Copyvio brings up nothing of concern, and also happy with spot-checks.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	The history of the subject is adequately addressed, which is its main interest. More recent developments also mentioned.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	Article stays focussed on subject whilst also addressing historical context.
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	Topic is presented neutrally.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	Majority of recent edits are by nominator. Recent edit history is constructive.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	Copyright status provided for all images.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	Not a requirement for GA, but all images need alt descriptions. ~~Alt descriptions added for all images.~~
	7. Overall assessment.