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Looking at this closer, this article has some serious distortions. The section heading on this topic suggest that he identifies with a movement he doesn't identify with. Also, someone has attributed the following quote to him — "I think Curtis Yarvin’s monarchy ideas are bonkers, but you know what? He’s absolutely on to something real with his concept of the Cathedral" but it is not Vance who has said that. There's a bit of cleaning up to do in this piece. Am suddenly very aware of the direction we're given in WP:BLPSTYLE "Do not label people with contentious labels, loaded language, or terms that lack precision, unless a person is commonly described that way in reliable sources." Before this subject is given any labels, we must ensure they have not been derived simply from the company the person kept at some point in the past; moreover, before the subject is given a label, I believe we would all need to be convinced that he has been "commonly described" as such, not once off in an opinion piece, by a critic, many years ago.MatthewDalhousie (talk) 02:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some of the sections in the article quote extensively from Vance himself (e.g., this one). Although the quotations are mostly taken from secondary sources, the quotes themselves are primary sources. The Talk page for WP:PRIMARY is currently discussing the policy statement that an editor should "not base an entire article on primary sources, and be cautious about basing large passages on them" (emphasis added). We seem to be in that territory here. WP:BLPPRIMARY also says to be cautious in using primary sources. Is the article text sometimes relying too much on quotes from Vance? Or is that appropriate, given that the article is about his political positions and secondary sources think direct quotations are a good way to capture some of them? FactOrOpinion (talk) 19:37, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
