Talk:Pitshanger

Pitshanger Village or just Pitshanger?

"Pitshanger Village" may be a cute name invented by estate agents, but the area itself (around Pitshanger Lane and Pitshanger Park) clearly exists. After all, it is not the estate agents who run the Pitshanger Community Association and the Football Club. Perhaps this article should be called "Pitshanger" instead of "Pitshanger Village". --RichardVeryard 17:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, there should probably be some debate about this; I think the bakery in Pitshanger is called 'Pitshanger Village Bakery', and although the name might have been dreamt up by estate agents (or something similar), if the name has stuck then I think that might be justification to keep it as the article name. However, I don't know what Pitshanger is more often called, that's what I would go by for the article name. Until we agree, I think it could be best not to take strong action, and instead simply having a sentence or two about the name in the main article could do for the moment. Drum guy 17:27, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On the whole I prefer the name Pitshanger to Pitshanger Village, on the grounds that the latter gives the impression that there was actually a historical village with that name, which isn't the case as far as I'm aware. However, the word "village" clearly has its attractions, particularly in a middle-class urban setting - as exemplified by the "Village Vet" chain, one of whose branches is in Pitshanger Lane - and I can see why local trades-people, such as the Pitshanger Village Bakery, are keen to adopt it. So for that reason I can see there's a reasonable case for calling the article "Pitshanger Village".

More contentious perhaps is how the area is actually defined, and how significant it is. My feeling is that it's probably best to consider it as separate from the Brentham Garden Suburb, and I would have thought that even estate agents would have wanted to take advantage of the added cachet that this latter name has, even though part of Pitshanger Lane lies within the area. As regards describing Brentham Garden Suburb as being "near Pitshanger", I'm not sure that Pitshanger is significant enough for this description to be really very useful, and I would have thought it better to describe it simply as being "in Ealing", or, if you want to be more precise, "in North Ealing".

It's interesting that in recent years Pitzhanger Manor has reverted to what was presumably the name by which Sir John Soane knew it. At least that has the advantage of separating it lexically as well as physically from Pitshanger (Village).

TonySever 21:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Just passing through.
Have you though about emailing Pitshanger Community Association? Suggest that its in their interest as a community to have a nice article about the village. Point out it will also encourage readers to visit their site too. They will probably have a few members with history degrees who may enjoy the opportunity to add information. Also, they might be able to dig out some old photo's for this article. Peter Hounsell's book has got a little about the housing development starting on page 130, so have added it to the article. Have added a link to the Ealing and Brentford manors so you can use it to add a bit more about the origins of Pitshanger. The that will form the foundation for more resent information. At the moment it looks still-born. --Aspro 18:26, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]