Talk:Pinus strobus

Metric

Weronika is a plant.This page, like many other American species pages existed solely in Metric for a long time. I added units with which Americans are familiar. MPF rearranged these to make the Metric have precedence. While Metric measurement is clearly superior, and probably will be adapted some day by the U.S., it is currently strange to the lay people who will use this work as a reference. If I were to start reworking pages of European species with units unfamiliar to the lay people, it would be regarded as discourteous. Please consider this and apply the Golden Rule.  Pollinator July 3, 2005 13:16 (UTC)

I disagree. It is a science topic, and as in any science topic, scientific measurements should come first. I also would point out that the Flora of North America (probably the best and most detailed American source of information on American plants) does not consider US units to be necessary at all. Finally, plants like weronkia aren't good to plant by a white pine tree. it should be remembered that well over half of the species' range is in Canada. - MPF 3 July 2005 13:25 (UTC)

Any scientific topic should use SI. 67.140.227.39 23:16, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I disagree, as a North American species, the Imperial units should come first. Huw Powell (talk) 07:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty new to wikipedia so I don't feel comfortable editing a page. There is a claim on this page which simply cannot be true, and must be a type "the Boogerman Pine was 630 m (2070 ft) tall" I hope someone that know more about this than me can correct this.

There is another error later in the page "a tree in the Mohawk Trail State Forest known as the Jake Swamp Tree is 510.5 m (1690 ft) tall as of June 2007"

I think this might be wrong: "A typical large white pine will be in the 3.0 to 3.7 m (10-12 ft) circumference range" - It contradicts everything in the section. Huw Powell (talk) 07:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

That statement is not inconsistent, but redundant. Diameters in the range from 1.0 to 1.6 meters imply circumferences in the range of 3.1 to 5 meters, this matches what is stated, the 3.0 to 3.7 meter range is actually the lower fourth of that range. --Paiconos (talk) 22:27, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Dubious

• "57.54 m (188.54 ft)"

A meter is not 3.2767 ft. One of these is wrong. Figure out which one is right, provide a reference for it, put that one first, and convert properly.

Have the problems mentioned above by Huw Powell been addressed? Gene Nygaard (talk) 15:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Technically, both numbers were off, but not by much. The source of the information, the ENTS website, has the height of this eastern white pine at 188.8 feet on March 27, 2008. Using the conversion of 1 meter = 3.2808 feet, this translates to a height (rounded off to the nearest 0.01 m) as 57.55 m.

Range

Comment says the tree ranges to extreme south Georgia. I think we mean extreme northern Georgia, where it is in fact receding as the summers grow hotter in the southern Appalachians. I've made the change but if there's evidence of strobus being (or even extant) in southern Georgia please revert. Thehappysmith (talk) 15:11, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Description

It is missing a description of the bark and wood. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.63.224.238 (talk) 17:53, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Edit to improve sort order in category Pinus

I edited this to change the sort order on the page for the Category:Pinus. It had been set to alphabetize under Pine. That might make sense for categories where there are a lot of trees and a few of them are pines; then all the pines group together. But on the page where everything is a pine, it made more sense to alphabetize under Eastern White. 140.147.236.194 (talk) 12:50, 13 April 2010 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza

Historical Importance in Great Midwestern Fires

White pine played a big role in the Great Chicago Fire and the Peshtigo Fire. It was white pine buildings made from the balloon frame that burned most easily. And I think Peshtigo itself was located in an area where there used to be a white pine forest? Would be nice if someone could connect all those dots with sufficient citations. --GoldCoastPrior (talk) 17:36, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Drooping limbs in response to long rains

Lately the pines here have dramatically changed shape, and we've had so much rain in the past two months that I think they're related. At first I thought that the bark was soaking up the water, but now I wonder if trees can actually move their limbs, even if it happens very slowly. I couldnt find any information on this .... everyone mentioning drooping limbs is talking about some sort of parasite. And it's possible that the long rains might help a parasite cause damage, but I dont see any peeling bark or needles turning yellow. It makes me wonder if this tree were planted in a very wet climate, such as the Hoh rainforest, would it grow to have this drooping shape all the time? —Soap— 12:03, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Just clarifying that it's clear that the actual branches have moved ... it's not just long needles losing their firmness. I might not have much more to say on this until autumn when I expect to see the trees recover their natural shape. If they don't, I'm sure by then other people, including tree experts, will have noticed and written about it. —Soap— 23:34, 30 July 2023 (UTC)