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EP?

It's not an EP!It's a re-release!--Nikinikolananov (talk) 19:38, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

EP or box set?

With the editing going back and forth over the past few days, it has become apparent that there is no clear consensus if The Re-Up is to be categorized as an EP or a box set. Like an EP, the first disc contains only eight songs, about thirty minutes in length. However, it is only sold packaged with the original album, and is not available as a standalone piece. Like an box set, the product holds three discs, with the two musical discs and the DVD. The sticker on the physical album describes it as a "3 disc set", with no mention of an EP. A consensus should be established to avoid any future conflicting edits such as those we've recently seen. 68DANNY2 (talk) 16:04, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

Should this article be merged with Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded as it is a re-release? Thanks :) CMBCMB999 (Speak) 05:51, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded – The Re-Up

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded – The Re-Up's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "vibe":

From Freedom (Nicki Minaj song): "Nicki Minaj Releases "Freedom": Listen to the New "Roman Reloaded - The Re-Up" Track". Vibe. 2012-11-03. Retrieved 2012-11-15.
From Nicki Minaj: O'Connor, Siobhan (June 23, 2010). "Character Study: Just How Real Is Nicki Minaj?". Vibe. Retrieved August 28, 2010.
From Young Money Entertainment: Checkoway, Laura (October 2, 2007). "Weezy F. Baby: Uncut". Vibe. Archived from the original on June 11, 2008.
From Champion (Nicki Minaj song): "Nicki Minaj Talks Trayvon Martin, 'Roman Reloaded,' Working With Nas, Love for Foxy & Remy Ma". Vibe. Vibe Inc. April 3, 2012. Retrieved April 7, 2012. {{cite web}}: |first= missing |last= (help)

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 17:32, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Pink Print

Nicki wrote on her twitter that the "Pink Friday" era is over! CoolAbc (talk) 11:02, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm Legit

Hi!Can somebody delete or merge the I'm Legit article with the PF:RR - The Re-Up page?It's copied from http://nickiminaj.wikia.com/wiki/I'm_Legit!Nikinikolananov (talk) 12:29, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

I propose that "I'm Legit" be merged into The Re-Up article. The song hasn't been released as a single, nor has it even been confirmed as one. Minor buzz doesn't make a subject worthy of an entire article dedicated to it. If/when it is released, then the discussion to make a separate article can be reopened, but for now, I think it is doing just fine in the main album's article. Also, as previously mentioned, the article is an exact copy from the Nicki Minaj Wikia. 68DANNY2 (talk) 21:19, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The entire article is unsourced, so "merging" it would simply be adding unsourced content to an article. Dan56 (talk) 21:26, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good point, so then the article should just be redirected. 68DANNY2 (talk) 22:23, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. The I'm Legit article was a complete copyright violation of the Nicki Minaj Wikia anyway. SMC (talk) 02:51, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am the creator of I'm Legit page. I am also an user in the Nicki Minaj Wikia. I apologize for copyright violation, but I've seen a thousand of articles related to Nicki Minaj that have the exact text as Nicki Minaj Wikia. I've even seen people put reference links to the Nicki Minaj Wikia. I didn't know I would violate copyright, that's why I did it. Diar7 (talk) 20:02, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, you're right. Having looked closer at the Nicki Minaj Wikia, it appears that all Wikia content is (unless otherwise stated) compatible with CC-BY-SA 3.0, which is what Wikipedia requires. Anyway, in this case the I'm Legit article needed to be redirected anyway because it was not officially a single (even though some of us may infer that it will be). However, the Nicki Minaj Wikia wouldn't count as a good reference, so it can't be used as a reference. Instead, articles need their own third-party references (e.g. interviews, critics reviews, etc.) SMC (talk) 03:12, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I understand. It's ok since the page didn't have much info in the first place, lol. Sorry, again. Diar7 (talk) 12:25, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'm an administrator in the Nicki Minaj Wiki (a.k.a Wiki Minaj). All the content in any wiki of Wikia can be borrowed and used as you like since is licensed like Wikipedia. Also, you can see that Wiki Minaj has Quality Standards that require the use of reliable sources. Now is pretty common to see users copying all our content and paste it in Wikipedias article (Va Va Voom, Freedom, The Boys, The Re-Up, all of them had copied content at some point but was later changed), and, since we use sources/references in our articles, the copied articles are accepted in Wikipedia. I will appreciate if users of Wikipedia give credit to Wiki Minaj, since we do the same for Wikipedia. Although, we don't have any problem with it. Have a nice day, and excuse my English. --200.12.39.93 (talk) 14:08, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OK and i think that this is exactly the same as the Wiki Minaj article for the song "Masquerade".Isn't it?And that this is the same as the Wiki Minaj page for HOV Lane?--Nikinikolananov (talk) 10:09, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded – The Re-Up/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: DivaKnockouts (talk · contribs) 21:36, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Link studio album
"Released less than one year after the original, Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded – The Re-Up features eight newly-recorded songs and an exclusive behind-the-scenes footage DVD." — Hm, lets say exactly how many months it was released after the original.

Background

"She began working on the album in 2011 and was finished recording in early 2012." → "She began working on the album in 2011 and was finished recording by early 2012."
"...Minaj worked collaborators..." ← What?
The album's lead single "Starships" became Minaj's most successful and most certified single to date, becoming one of the best-selling singles of all time and making US Billboard history after debuting in the top ten and then spending a total of 21 consecutive weeks in the top ten of the Hot 100. — Remove the second occurrence of the word "most".

New material

Who is Cassie? Provide information for the uninvolved reader.

Singles

Delink Cassie (entertainer)
Did "Up in Flames" chart? If not shouldn't it be mentioned?

Critical reception

At Metacritic, which assigns a normalized rating out of 100 to reviews from mainstream critics, Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded – The Re-Up received an average score of 72, which indicates "generally favorable reviews", based on eight reviews. → On Metacritic, which assigns a normalized rating out of 100 to reviews from mainstream critics, Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded – The Re-Up received an average score of 72, which indicates "generally favorable reviews", based on eight reviews.

Commercial performance and subsequent sections

Everything looks good.

References

FN#1 — No italics to Allmusic
FN#2 — No italics to Digital Spy, needs author
FN#3 — Is this reliable?
FN#5 — No italics to iTunes Store (US), the title should be "iTunes - Music - Pink Friday ... Roman Reloaded (Deluxe Edition) by Nicki Minaj"
FN#6 — Needs author
FN#7 — No italics to Allmusic
FN#15 — No italics to MTV News
FN#19 — Publisher should be Vibe Media Group
FN#21 — Link The Los Angeles Times, needs publisher
FN#23 — Remove the stray symbol in author's name.
FN#24 — Delink The Los Angeles Times, always link something the first time you use it, needs publisher
FN#25 — No italics to Allmusic
FN#26 — No italics to iTunes Store (US), title should be iTunes - Music - The Boys - Single by Nicki Minaj & Cassie
FN#27 — A full reference is needed.
FN#29 — No italics to iTunes Store (CA), title should be iTunes - Music - Freedom - Single by Nicki Minaj
FN#32 — No bare references. See FN#27
FN#33 — No italics to MTV News
FN#34 — Same here
FN#35 — Publisher needed (Phoenix Media/Communications Group
FN#36 — Publisher needed (Independent Print Limited)
FN#44 — No italics to iTunes Store (US), title should be "iTunes - Music - Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded the Re-Up by Nicki Minaj"
FN#46 — No italics to French Albums Chart, add publisher (Syndicat National de l'Édition Phonographique
FN#47 — No italics to Spanish Albums Chart, add publisher (Productores de Música de España)
FN#48 — No italics to Australian Recording Industry Association
FN#49 and #50 — No italics to iTunes Store (US), title should be "iTunes - Music - Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded the Re-Up by Nicki Minaj"
FN#51 — Link Amazon.com

There we go. Putting article On hold until minor issues have been addressed. Regards. — Diva Knockouts 22:29, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done all. However, I left the MyPinkFriday reference in because it's actually Minaj's official website. WikiRedactor (talk) 22:59, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Great job with the article. Now is a GA. ✓ Pass — Diva Knockouts 23:32, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Infobox

Allmusic refers to the release as an EP here. If any other reliable source is found stating the album is a box set or studio album, it can be changed. Reliable sources should be presented here first. — Diva Knockouts 14:31, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'd personally lean towards a compilation album, since The Re-Up is the previously-released Roman Reloaded packaged with eight new songs. And the new disc isn't sold separately. WikiRedactor (talk) 21:47, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Disc 2

this article is muy confusing to someone who hasn't got the album. after much rereading, i *believe* what is being said is: "disc 1 = new material, disc 2 = VIDEOS, disc 3 = original album", right? on which point, i gotta ask: is disc 3 EXACTLY roman reloaded? then that should be stated EXPLICITLY somewhere.

a noob first reading the track section has no sense of what's new and what's rehash without a lot of back and forth to the "reloaded" article. the intro paragraphs give a reasonable description, but along with an expectation that disc 1 would be the old stuff, then disk 2 and/or 3 the new stuff. which is not the case!

moreover, what IS the stuff on disc 2?! audio or video, there's all sorts of new titles on there! if it's just music videos or "behind the scenes" of her singing the songs on discs 1 and 3, what the heck are things like "make me proud" and "broken silence" doing on there???? not to mention all those "beats"?!

i know "make me proud" was a duet she did with drake (not sure offhand about broken silence), but how does it fit in to everything else here? there's no audio version of it on EITHER disc 1 or disc 3, right? so what's the point of a video?!

so would a better description be: "disc 1 = new material, disc 2 = videos of songs both ON the album and songs NOT ON the album, disc 3 = original album" ??

NEEDS REWORK! 209.172.25.188 (talk) 03:38, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The track listing included on Wikipedia is exactly how it is presented in the album. Throughout the article, you'll see that the set includes the standard edition of the original album, the disc with the eight newly-recorded songs, and the DVD. This is already addressed several times in the article (introduction, background, and track listing). WikiRedactor (talk) 19:26, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

LOL. did u actually READ my post?! 209.172.25.204 (talk) 04:19, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

cmon, the track list may be complete but no attempt was made to indicate WHICH PART of it was the new stuff, which part was the old stuff, or what ANY of the stuff on disk 2 is (videos of WHAT, if not the songs on either 1 or 3?!). one shouldn't have to fumble back and forth to the non-reup page doing a point by point comparison to figure this out. 209.172.25.220 (talk) 02:43, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

LOL. Yes I did read your post. Straight from the article: "In November, she added that the expanded album would contain an additional disc with eight newly-recording songs and an exclusive behind-the-scenes DVD to supplement the standard edition of the original album." Disc 1: The Re-Up with the eight tracks, Disc 2: The Re-Up DVD with the behind-the-scenes footage, Disc 3: Roman Reloaded with the original album. Sorry, but I don't see how it can get any clearer than that. WikiRedactor (talk) 20:46, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

well, for starters, your key line there is NOT IN the quote, and fairly close to what i suggested. so you too apparently feel the need to clarify the overview given.

i'd suggest ADDING that to the quote, with a couple of corrections: 1) you can't really call disc 1 "the re-up" if the 3-disc set is called that as a whole. again, i'd suggest "disc 1: new material (8 tracks)" or somesuch; 2) WHAT is disc 2 "behind-the-scenes footage" OF?! another album? material from a forthcoming re-re-up? outtakes of american idol?! a cursory look reveals very few of the titles on disc 2 have anything TO DO with the disc 1 songs; and 3) just for clarity...is disc 3 EXACTLY the original roman reloaded album? no tweaks, no "remastered", nothing? just a marketing ploy to make u buy a new copy? in which case it's really a 2-disc album "bundled with" something most people already own.

i won't dwell on that, but let's be accurate here: "disc 1) NEW ALBUM, disc 2) behind-the-scenes footage of god knows what, disc 3) coaster"

agreed? 209.172.25.7 (talk) 23:27, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Pink Friday II: Roman Reloaded (The Sequel)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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