Talk:Phlebodium aureum

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The photo is the incorrect fern as of March 2020

Please delete this photo, find the correct one, and upload it. Ty78ejui (talk) 18:35, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ty78ejui: what is your reason for disputing the correct identification of the image? Peter coxhead (talk) 22:12, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That is the the correct fern, but naturally I can't show you, you have to google the name and take a look. I have one I can upload, but it's a pain to add a photo to wiki commons due having to fill out so many forms and so much redtape. Ty78ejui (talk) 23:12, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ty78ejui: "That is the the correct fern", sorry, I don't understand; what is the correct fern? By searching I only found photos of plants in cultivation. I know from experience that mis-naming is very common in horticulture. Also many are images of cultivars, which may be very different from wild plants. The current image is not dissimilar to the illustration here.→

At present I can't find any good images that are copyright free and come from a reliable source, so I can't find the correct one, and upload it. Peter coxhead (talk) 13:54, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I just bought this plant on Saturday, so I have to take a picture of it and I will try to upload to wikicommons. And then do the replacement. If you want I could email it to you and you could do it, if you prefer. There is one in wikicommons already, but it's not a very good one. The difference is that one is has a shaggy sort of leaf, and the correct one has a smoother leaf. Ty78ejui (talk) 17:11, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you're talking about how the pictured ferns are wavy at the edges in the third dimension, that condition is called "undulate margins". It is present in some but not all *P. aureum* individuals, as described and pictured in this peer-reviewed source. FourViolas (talk) 19:55, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Upon looking more closely at the photo, I am willing to concede that it could be correct. But, it's not the most common on on the market that is sold, but may be one that is seen in nature more often. "Phlebodium aureum mandaianum or Blue Star fern is a largeish fern with sturdy, arching bluish-green fronds. It thrives as a house plant, making it an attractive addition to any interior, whether traditional or contemporary. It is a striking plant with spores that add a beautiful orange to its wide silvery blue fronds."Ty78ejui (talk) 20:24, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately because of the strict policies on copyright, it's difficult for me to upload your image to Commons unless you first posted it somewhere (e.g. Flickr) with the right copyright notice. So it's better if you upload it. Then I or someone else can add it to the article to illustrate a form found in cultivation. Peter coxhead (talk) 20:28, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]