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POW's American, Filipino or both?

I'm confused by the last paragraph: is it discussing the non-Filipino prisoners-of-war (which would not be relevant, save for some officers, to The Philippine Scouts), or is it discussing POW's of all races and origins who had served the U.S. Army in the Philippines? (The previous paragraph suggests that the Filipino Scouts who had survived Camp O'Donnell had been paroled by 1943).Shakescene(talk) 06:35, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese Collaberation

Unless statements of collaberation by members, or whole units, of Philippine Scouts can be provided those statements will be removed.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 11:34, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, did the Japanese make use of Philippine Scouts who had been their POW's for occupation duty, in the way that British Indian POW's in Malaya and Burma had been recruited for Subhas Chandra Bose's Indian National Army ? Shakescene (talk) 06:35, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

im confused. these scouts were traitors to the Phillipines in service to both Spanish and americans? Juror1 (talk) 06:46, 25 August 2017 (UTC) No cited references have yet been provided indicating that Philippine Scout units, either in whole or in part, later served and cooperated with the Occupation of the Philippines by Japanese Forces. It is requested that if reliable sources can be found to back up these claims, that they be used when adding said content. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 11:34, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

José B. Nísperos

Re this edit, I don't have a problem with it but would quibble with the edit summary's assertion that Nisperos was "not actually an American". It seems to me that Nisperos would have been a U.S. National and a Citizen of the Philippines (or "Philippine Islands", or however that polity was properly designated at the time). See this (actually, p. 404 onwards, there). Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 01:01, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, I believe that the edit should be reverted. Filipinos during the American period, were U.S. Nationals up until 1935, as indicated by the reference in United States nationality law#Nationals who are not citizens. Furthermore there are multiple references stating that he is an Asian American. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 01:38, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If I don't hear objections by 31 January, I will revert the edit presuming that those who voice their opinion have built a consensus on the subject. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:56, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Removed unsupported assertion re Luna and Macabebe

Here I've removed an unsupported assertion saying that in retaliation to the forming of a company of Macabebe Scouts under Lieutenant Matthew A. Batson, Luna's troops burned the town of Macabebe and massacred its residents. I looked for a supporting source without success. I found something vaguely close at http://philippineamericanwar.webs.com/captureofaguinaldo1901.htm. AFAIK, though, that source is WP:SELFPUB. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 23:10, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Mutiny 1924

Filipinos originally received about half the pay of an American. The pay was high enough that even simple soldiers could support a family. By 1921, the salary of a simple American soldier had been increased to $21 a month. Filipinos received only $8, since in 20 years only a 40¢ increase had taken place. 1924 it came to mutiny. As a ringleader, 15 defendants were tried. As leader of the mutiny Tomas Riveral received 20 years, Gregorio Magalit ten years. He was released in 1932. Three others received 10-15 years. The Judge Advocate General in Washington considered the sentences too severe and suggested that most of them be reinstated in the scouts. The local officers refused, but the five-year prison sentence in 2½-year service was reduced in one punishment unit. (Karl Hack, Tobias Rettig (Hrsg.): Colonial Armies in Southeast Asia. Abingdon 2006, ISBN 978-0-415-33413-6, S. 193, Fn 48)--Falkmart (talk) 22:42, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Patronizing treatment by US soldiers

On the bases the families of the scouts lived in their own barrios. The troops were considered tidy, motivated and disciplined, but were treated with condescension. Sexually transmitted diseases and alcoholism were much rarer than among Americans, and the relationship with officers was generally good, although there was often a lack of language skills on both sides.(Karl Hack, Tobias Rettig (Hrsg.): Colonial Armies in Southeast Asia. Abingdon 2006, ISBN 978-0-415-33413-6, S. 187 and John Olsen, Frank Anders: Anytime – Anywhere: The History of the 57th Infantry (PS). 1991,)--Falkmart (talk) 22:43, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Philippine Scouts

Yes 2404:3C00:A0AF:F2D0:748C:D0ED:EA81:FE20 (talk) 10:10, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]