Talk:Philippe Verdelot

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Composer project review

I've reviewed this article as part of the Composers project review of its B-class articles. This article is B-class, and might have some room to expand? See my detailed review on the comments page; questions or comments can be left here or on my talk page. Magic♪piano 17:06, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, this article can be expanded. He's a huge and important figure in music history, though it has been perfectly maddening trying to figure out what happened to him at or after 1530. That was a terrifying period, and Savonarola's ashes had barely cooled; it was a bad time to be around Florence and not supportive of the Medici. This was one of my first articles (May 2004) but I expanded it in 2006 using Susan McClary's quirky book on the Italian madrigal (her world-view is about as far from Einstein as it is possible to get). There's a lot of information on Verdelot and the early madrigal out there. Antandrus (talk) 15:29, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

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==Composers Project Assessment of Philippe Verdelot: 2008-12-2== This is an assessment of article Philippe Verdelot by a member of the Composers project, according to its assessment criteria. This review was done by Magicpiano. If an article is well-cited, the reviewer is assuming that the article reflects reasonably current scholarship, and deficiencies in the historical record that are documented in a particular area will be appropriately scored. If insufficient inline citations are present, the reviewer will assume that deficiencies in that area may be cured, and that area may be scored down. Adherence to overall Wikipedia standards (WP:MOS, WP:WIAGA, WP:WIAFA) are the reviewer's opinion, and are not a substitute for the Wikipedia's processes for awarding Good Article or Featured Article status. ===Origins/family background/studies=== Does the article reflect what is known about the composer's background and childhood? If s/he received musical training as a child, who from, is the experience and nature of the early teachers' influences described? ok ===Early career=== Does the article indicate when s/he started composing, discuss early style, success/failure? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed? ok ===Mature career=== Does the article discuss his/her adult life and composition history? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed? ok, but there seems to be room for more; see summary ===List(s) of works=== Are lists of the composer's works in WP, linked from this article? If there are special catalogs (e.g. Köchel for Mozart, Hoboken for Haydn), are they used? If the composer has written more than 20-30 works, any exhaustive listing should be placed in a separate article. No complete list of works. ===Critical appreciation=== Does the article discuss his/her style, reception by critics and the public (both during his/her life, and over time)? ok, but see summary ===Illustrations and sound clips=== Does the article contain images of its subject, birthplace, gravesite or other memorials, important residences, manuscript pages, museums, etc? Does it contain samples of the composer's work (as composer and/or performer, if appropriate)? (Note that since many 20th-century works are copyrighted, it may not be possible to acquire more than brief fair use samples of those works, but efforts should be made to do so.) If an article is of high enough quality, do its images and media comply with image use policy and non-free content policy? (Adherence to these is needed for Good Article or Featured Article consideration, and is apparently a common reason for nominations being quick-failed.) No sound or images. Obviously the putative 1511 painting (if it could be identified), would be a prime candidate. The article is long enough to merit more images; one of Machiavelli, or scenes of Florence, would not be out of place in the body. ===References, sources and bibliography=== Does the article contain a suitable number of references? Does it contain sufficient inline citations? (For an article to pass Good Article nomination, every paragraph possibly excepting those in the lead, and every direct quotation, should have at least one footnote.) If appropriate, does it include Further Reading or Bibliography beyond the cited references? Article is well referenced; moderate inline citations. ===Structure and compliance with WP:MOS=== Does the article comply with Wikipedia style and layout guidelines, especially WP:MOS, WP:LEAD, WP:LAYOUT, and possibly WP:SIZE? (Article length is not generally significant, although Featured Articles Candidates may be questioned for excessive length.) ok ===Things that may be necessary to pass a Good Article review=== Article requires more inline citations (WP:CITE) Article needs (more) images and/or other media (MOS:IMAGE) ===Summary=== A nice biography of a man living in interesting times. I get a sense that more could be written e.g. about his political involvement. (How do we know which way his politics went?) The article discusses his compositions, but does not exhaustively list them. There are no images, although the article is long enough to support several. Notable characters in the bio would be good candidates for inclusion. There is also no sound; always a bonus. The article has some inline cites; a GA/FA consideration would probably want more thorough referencing. Article is B-class; some possibilities for expansion? Magic♪piano 17:04, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

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