Talk:Phantom Ranch

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Combining articles

There is a second article describing the same place, Phantom ranch. I suggest combining these articles into one, keeping the one with the capital "R" since this is a placename and a proper noun. Notary137 05:32, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Planning to merge the articles today or tomorrow. Novickas 13:16, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Great job of merging! Thanks Novickas! Notary137 19:51, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion after merge

This article has a lot of great info, and appears to be neat and concise per WP:LAYOUT. About all I can think this needs is maybe a picture illustrating the entire ranch area, (perhaps from Phantom Overlook on the Clear Creek Trail, I can get one in January when there is no foliage), and some cross-checking from a Phantom Ranch book that my family has. I would also like to expand information about Theodore Roosevelt and his visit to the camp. Looking to take care of the book research by this weekend. Notary137 19:49, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Distance of Bridge Crossings

The article says that "The two trail bridges near the ranch are the only Colorado River crossings within a 200-mile distance." I see two defects. First, it needs a citation; I'll add such a note. Secondly, it's false. The portion of the Colorado River in question is almost entirely within the Grand Canyon; there are bridges on either side not far from the canyon ends. Now, the Grand Canyon is only about 275 miles long (plus or minus), so even if these bridges were dead center in this region, there would be other river crossings within half of (275 miles plus a little bit). I suspect the intended word was "span," i.e., these two bridges are the only ones in a stretch of river totaling 200 miles. I'm making that change. If anyone is uncomfortable with it, we should probably delete the entire sentence, subject to a reliable citation being found.--Larry (talk) 01:46, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mail delivery by mule

In section "Phantom Ranch in the 21st century," it is stated that "Phantom Ranch also holds the distinction of being one of the only two places left in America whose mail is still delivered by mule, the other being Supai, Arizona." Here's the problem:

1. The specified source, from the U.S. Postal Service web site, conflicts with this, saying that "...the Supai [mail] route is the last mule train delivery in the United States."

2. The U.S. Postal Service web site does not recognize Phantom Ranch as having a post office.

The mules that carry letters to and from Phantom Ranch must not be part of the Postal Service, but part of a private enterprise. This is backed up by an article in the Arizona Daily News (see http://azdailysun.com/news/local/no-more-care-packages-for-phantom-ranch/article_a4af160e-ac9f-52d1-af7d-653c560ad355.html ), which talks about a private concessionaire (Xanterra) handling letters at Phantom Ranch.

Given that there's no source left for the claim being made, how do we know that there aren't other places where a private company carries mail? I think this statement needs to be removed, or at least modified.--Larry (talk) 18:44, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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