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All song titles serve as redirects to this album, have their own pages, or have been placed at the appropriate disambiguation pages.--Hraefen ^Talk 23:03, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Probably not released on Feb 20th, at least not according to two Virgin Records documents — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.24.142.212 (talk) 14:30, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Berlin school"

The last sentence of lead paragraph says "This is the first Tangerine Dream album to feature their now classic sequencer-driven sound, which launched the Berlin School genre.^{[citation needed]}. Unfortunately the link for "Berlin School", is piped to "Berlin School of electronic music", which redirects to Krautrock#Kosmische Musik. And that section says explicitly:

"The term "kosmische Musik" was coined by Edgar Froese in the liner notes of Tangerine Dream's 1971 album Alpha Centauri."^[1]

There is no mention of "Berlin School" at Krautrock. For the group, and perhaps for Krautrock as a whole, the album was ground-breaking for its use of synthesizers to produce multi-layered hypnotic rock-based rhythms. But I am unable to find any source that links this innovation to "Berlin School". Any thoughts? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:43, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We used to have a distinct Berlin School article, but it was redirected w/o consensus a few years back, due to sourcing concerns. I'd like to see it recreated some day, but in the meanwhile it will be necessary to look up some sources (I know someone was working on a musicological thesis on the genre a while back, haven't followed up if it was ever finished though.)

Phaedra has IMO nothing whatsoever to do with rock music, except maybe for that one bass guitar bridge in the title track. "Krautrock" is a heterogeneous concept that has no other overarching features than coming from 1970s Germany and being "experimental". TD's sequencer style emerges largely from pure technical constraints. --Trɔpʏliʊm • blah 15:07, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, yes, all these genre labels are a bit pointless, aren't they. Maybe more "funk" than rock. Or perhaps "rock" only because this album if often labeled as "Krautrock" and that pseudo-genre itself is labeled as a type of "experiental rock"? Then again, Rolling Stone magazine might take issue with you, as the album features at No. 23 in its "50 Greatest Prog Rock Albumsof All Time? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:22, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kindergarten sounds after the end of Phaedra

Has anyone noticed the kindergarten sounds appearing after the end of the main composition Phaedra? (don't know if these sounds survived the post-LP version, I still have Phaedra on LP). DannyJ.Caes (talk) 20:09, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. Mentioned here and here, but I don't see any credit on the original album cover. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:30, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Adelt, Ulricht (2016). Krautrock: German Music in the Seventies. University of Michigan Press. Retrieved 18 August 2017.

[adelt-1] Adelt, Ulricht (2016). Krautrock: German Music in the Seventies. University of Michigan Press. Retrieved 18 August 2017.

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