Talk:Petrona Eyle

Planned Improvements (Women in Green Good Article Edit-a-thon)

Hi all! I will be working on improving this article as part of the Women in Green Good Article Edit-a-thon in the upcoming days and weeks. Based on a preliminary look at this article, here are some major things I would like to accomplish:

• Obviously the priority will be to add reliable sources, as this article is pretty much entirely unsourced at present.
• Copyedit, as necessary.

I would love to add information about her activities post-1930, but there seems to be a genuine dearth of information about her life during this period. This seems to be an understood gap in scholarship. Per paper of record El País:

Little by little, however, Petrona Eyle 's reference fell into ostracism and almost into oblivion. From 1930 onwards little was known about her, except that in 1937 she was part of a commission honoring the pioneering doctor of Medicine in Argentina, Cecilia Grierson.

I'll be working in my sandbox primarily, and transferring edits as appropriate. If you have any questions, suggestions, or objections, please let me know! I am a new editor, so I might make mistakes. Thanks! Spookyaki (talk) 21:36, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

There is a lot of conflicting information about Eyle's parents and general upbringing. Barrancos says that her father was German and her mother was Argentine, while other sources claim that Petrona herself was of Swiss ancestry, which would align with Moretti's reporting on Swiss settlers in Baradero and seems quite plausible. These points of view aren't necessarily contradictory, and I tried to accommodate them as best I could, partially by using footnotes, but I still find myself unsatisfied with the outcome and unsure if what I've done constitutes original research or synthesis. If anyone has any guidance or solutions I would greatly appreciate it. Spookyaki (talk) 04:36, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

I would also love to add this picture of Petrona Eyle Street, but since the "Death and legacy" section is so short, I'm not really sure where to put it. If anyone has any suggestions, it would be appreciated. Spookyaki (talk) 05:01, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Women in Green 20-minute assessment

Hello Spookyaki! As requested at the October Women in Green edit-a-thon, here is a short mini-review to help identify any major improvements needed before a formal Good Article nomination is submitted. This article appears in very good shape to me: solid writing, sourcing and formatting, and a broad range of info about Eyle. It's close to being ready for nomination. Here are a few more comments and suggested improvements:

• Can you confirm where the photo of Eyle comes from, and what the original date of creation/publication is? The uploader hasn't included much information to show why the provided creative commons licensing actually applies, and a GA reviewer would want reasonable confirmation that there are no copyright issues in play. If you need more advice about image copyright, the Commons Village Pump is a great place to start.
• I think your footnotes are quite a reasonable way of handling the conflicting background info. Regarding your worries about accidentally incorporating original research or synthesis: footnotes a, c, and d all look fine to me (they're simply presenting additional perspectives, backed up by sources). Footnote b is the only one that strikes me as potentially crossing into synthesis territory, and that's partially due to the footnote wording -- it sounds a little more speculative. You could edit that footnote to keep the focus on "what other authors say". However, if multiple reliable sources state that Eyle had Swiss heritage, and the Oxford Encyclopedia source is the lone voice stating otherwise, then maybe it's worth considering moving the Swiss connection out of the footnote and into the main text instead.
• The paragraph about how Nuestra Causa coverage of white slavery rose and declined makes it all sound a bit coincidental. Did Eyle actually influence that coverage during her time as editor, or is that influence simply speculated?
• Although the Death & Legacy section is short, there's still lots of space for the inclusion of more images (there's no risk of making the article look cluttered right now). In my opinion, however, that street sign photo may not be the ideal choice -- the sign lettering looks very dark due to poor lighting, and a better quality photo would probably contribute more to the article.
• While not strictly required to meet GA criteria, it's good practice to add alt text to all images (I'd recommend aiming for 1-2 concise lines of description for each image).

Let me know if you have any questions about my comments, and good luck with this article! It's an interesting read. Best, Alanna the Brave (talk) 18:04, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for your input! Currently asking the Village Pump about the status of the image. As for the Nuestra Causa coverage, I've been trying to wrap my brain around how to improve the wording but I'm not sure how. The source covers several articles published during Eyle's time as editor (though not necessarily written by her, and nowhere is it explicitly stated that she influenced coverage) that cover the topic before concluding:

One last comment that I find important is that in the second period of the magazine, after Petrona Eyle left its leadership, the articles on abolitionism decreased, but references and news from the feminist movement that report these points continued to appear. (de León Lascano, 105)

For now I just attributed the quote to de León Lascano. If you have any ideas for how to approach this, it would be appreciated, but no worries if not. Thanks again for your help! Spookyaki (talk) 20:21, 12 October 2024 (UTC)