Talk:Peter Jensen (bishop)
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Correction on References
[edit]Correction on Reference 3 is required as when I clicked on it this evening it led to the telegraph.co.uk home page. Nothing on Peter Jensen there.Jackandkira (talk) 11:05, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Unnecessarily laudatory
[edit]Reading the article, you'd scarcely think Jensen was a controversial figure, since the contents are relentlessly positive. I know Australian Anglican clergy, and have heard much (albeit anecdotally) that would suggest his actions are decidedly more mixed, and that he is as divisive a personality domestically as he is in worldwide Anglicanism. Could someone with local knowledge impose some balance? Fishhead64 16:56, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Local knowledge: If Wiki is to handle any controversy in a neutral way here, it should consider Peter Jensen as a leading figure within a larger historical and social context. It is true that Peter is sometimes associated with controversy, because he is willing to actively represent the concerns and interests of conservative evangelical Anglicanism. However, without playing down his personal responsibility for this, objective evidence for Sydney diocese as a conservative evangelical branch of Anglicanism since inception is well documented. Evangelicals in England deliberately lobbied to send Richard Johnson as chaplain with the First Fleet of European settlement to Australia. Sydney has a continuous history of this branch of Anglicanism being dominant (although not unchallenged).
- Reliable sources should exist to document that Sydney Anglicans, Peter Jensen among them, started taking a pro-active role in lobbying for evangelicalism, first among diocese within Australia (late 1980s), later across the whole Anglican communion (late 1990s). This lobbying pre-dates Peter's appointment as arch-bishop, and involved several other key figures from the diocese. To some extent, Peter's appointment reflects a broad mandate to continue persuit of such evangelical lobbying. Peter's voice undoubtedly has helped shape contemporary Sydney Anglicanism, however, he represents more than just his own opinions, he also reflects the Sydney traditions that actually shaped Jensen himself (Hammond and Knox), and many Sydney Anglicans who have also been shaped by the same tradition.
- It is probably worthy of note that evangelicalism in Sydney is not strictly limited to Anglicanism. Australia has little tradition of Christianity, and so evangelicals willing to co-operate across denominations on the basis of their evangelicalism have probably had disproportionately more influence than one might expect in other cities and social contexts.
- The rationales, both theological and methodological, and also the names of key players in Sydney evangelicalism have been published continuously in The Briefing over the course of a couple of decades. Briefing articles are catechetical, not neutral, so they provide a good "inside look" at what lies behind the Sydney evangelical POV in various notable public events and debates.
- Best wishes to anyone willing to write this up. Alastair Haines (talk) 15:01, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
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- the link for the removal is at http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Peter_Jensen&action=historysubmit&diff=276615006&oldid=273182901 The text is probably not worth reinserting even with a reference. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:07, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
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