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Single?

I think this is a single as there is a separate download on their website and unique artwork. It is not unprecedented for singles to be included as part of a CD with other singles. If it was just a "song" I don't think it would have its own artwork and separate digital release. Heartfox (talk) 19:20, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah it's a single. When I created the article, there wasn't any information on it. I'll add the cover. Thanks.--Lirim | Talk 19:24, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Permission to remove this paragraph from the article: In an cover story published by Billboard on BTS in August 2021, the magazine noted how BTS' fans "exploited loopholes in music chart rules" to manipulate the commercial success of the band's singles in the U.S., especially "Butter" and "Permission to Dance", through unlimited bulk purchases of the song on BTS' website, and crowdfunding techniques, in which PayPal is used to pool money from fans across the globe to buy multiple copies of "Permission to Dance", in order to inflate the song's sales on the U.S. charts. Furthermore, Billboard dubbed it "highly unusual" how "Permission to Dance" debuted at number one on the Hot 100 chart while "Butter" fell six spots to number 7 the same week, and in the following week, "Butter" jumped back to number one spot, switching positions with "Permission to Dance", which declined to number 7.^[1]

As it contains false information, BTS was indeed asked if they knew about rumours considering chart manipulation, they have however never been outright accused of chart manipulation. This was merely a suggestion made by a freelance journalist, and does not reflect the views of the Billboard Charts itself. See the article in question: https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/9618967/bts-billboard-cover-story-2021-interview The author of this paragraph (user Lirim.Z) has also made several of these edits on multiple wikipedia pages that promote falsehoods and manipulated truths. Margot1106 (talk) 13:52, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:10, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ S. Kwaak, Jeyuyp (August 26, 2021). "Inside the Business of BTS — And the Challenges Ahead". Billboard. Retrieved August 26, 2021.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

Inclusion of Billboard article

While Billboard is a reliable source, I'm not sure if we need a paragraph for cover story regarding chart manipulation in three articles; currently, there's one in BTS, Butter (song), and here. The inclusion of the paragraph is somewhat controversial as it is (see Talk:BTS). I don't object to a balanced paragraph about the article in the former two, but the primary focus of the Billboard article is the chart performance of Butter, with Permission to Dance receiving less coverage. Is it a bit WP:UNDUE to include it here, given that it already exists at BTS and Butter? OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 14:05, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I don't know if the paragraph in BTS is gonna stay for long (so far the consensus per the RfC points to removal) but it's true that the focus was on Butter. Not to mention the wording is pretty much the same in the three articles (even before my edits). - Ïvana (talk) 17:25, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] S. Kwaak, Jeyuyp (August 26, 2021). "Inside the Business of BTS — And the Challenges Ahead". Billboard. Retrieved August 26, 2021.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

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