Talk:PenAgain

Admittingly I am a newbie at this, but I don't undestand specifically what parts of the article are written like an advertisement. Every statement is factual and well supported. If its not too much trouble please be more specific in your critique. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thermaldynamics (talk • contribs)

See WP:NPOV and WP:SPAM --Ronz 00:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Media Attention" section - NPOV

I think the entire section violates WP:NPOV. Given that it's a section about media attention, I don't think it belongs in any form. I suggest removing the section and changing the references to external links. --Ronz 00:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If I hadn't already proposed removal of the section, I would have tagged it for having weasel words too. --Ronz 01:07, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the section, moving the references to external links since they demonstrate notability and might be used as references again in the future.--Ronz 01:15, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Models" section - unreferenced

I don't think this section belongs in the article at all, but I'd like to give editors time to find sources first. --Ronz 01:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How is this any different from the model section of the ipod page? The ipod page simply details the different types of models for ipod - as does this page for the penagain. The ipod page does not cite references either, a criticism someone posted for this page. Please explain this. Or is there a double standard in wikipedia? --Junipertree 01:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good question. Why don't you ask the editors there? My guess is that iPods have quite a bit more press than PenAgain and they could easily come up with sources.

Meanwhile, Wikipedia requires information to be sourced (WP:V), and properly sourced so as to not be presented in a biased way (WP:NPOV). --Ronz 01:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removed because no sources given to indicate importance. --Ronz 20:22, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Again, Ipod does the SAME EXACT THING - why don't you go remove those images? Stop with the double standards Ronz, do you work for the company and are worried about the company's image? You're destroying the whole essence of wikipedia.--Junipertree 01:05, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I'm not editing iPod. --Ronz 20:56, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to 3 external links on PenAgain. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 19:02, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 3 external links on PenAgain. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 20:36, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]