Talk:Paul Walker/Archive 1

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Removed "role"

Someone added to his filmography that he was playing Captain America in the 2009 film. There is absolutely no evidence to support this claim. Captain America has not been chosen, I haven't even heard any rumors of Paul Walker being considered. Xprivate eyex 04:55, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Revision complete...

The revision to the article is complete. I have added and updated references, incorporated new information, and just moved things around so that it sounds less "fan site" and more "encyclopedia". If anyone has any issues with the revision and/or feel that I've missed something important, you can either add it in yourself or discuss it here or on my talk page. If you have a problem with any part of the revision, I would really appreciate feedback so that we can work to improve the article. Ms. Sarita (talk) 10:26, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Engaged

here is the link http://perezhilton.com/2009-02-05-paul-walker-35-engaged-to-teenager#respond

PerezHilton.com is not considered a reliable source. It's a gossip blog site. If you can find a reliable source stating that he is engaged, we'll put it in. Happy editing! – Ms. Sarita ^Confer 21:12, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

His school

the high school it says he attended wasnt opened until he was 21 years old. so isnt that impossible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.66.98.251 (talk) 12:51, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Apparent death

Maybe Died? November 30, 2013. Car crash. 75.134.118.244 (talk) 02:32, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Paul Walker died today. Tragically......RIP

99.90.151.133 (talk) 02:53, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Paul Walker died on November 30, 2013 174.124.250.31 (talk) 02:55, 1 December 2013 (UTC) Not cool dude

Paul Walker Died November 30, 2013

Paul Walker Died November 30, 2013 Robimj23 (talk) 02:58, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Paul Walker died November,30 2013 in a car crash Natasharodz (talk) 03:00, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Edulimajunior (talk) 03:04, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Death

Death was Just reported on WPIX TV Ch 11 in NYC on the 10PM News 74.68.60.95 (talk) 03:09, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Death was Just reported on SMH. Sounds like it is official?? <http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/paul-walker-fast-and-the-furious-star-dies-in-car-crash-20131201-2yj4e.html>

Paulwalker passed away in a car accident on November 30, 2013.

Link

http://www.tmb.com/2013/11/30/paul-walker-dead-dies-car-accident-fatal-fire-crash/ Iaravindh (talk) 03:11, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Paul's Facebook page is confirming the story now.

NY Dailey news

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/paul-walker-dies-crash-report-article-1.1533786

Same as official Twitter page

https://twitter.com/RealPaulWalker

"It is with a truly heavy heart that we must confirm that Paul Walker passed away today in a tragic car accident while attending a charity event for his organization Reach Out Worldwide. He was a passenger in a friend's car, in which both lost their lives. We appreciate your patience as we too are stunned and saddened beyond belief by this news. Thank you for keeping his family and friends in your prayers during this very difficult time. We will do our best to keep you apprised on where to send condolences. - #TeamPW" - From Paul's Facebook page.

Apparent death and edit requests

He is dead I have marked all as resolved, and the request is  Not done. Walker has not been confirmed as dead by any reliable sources, and so far as I can tell, all stories currently point back to a TMZ report. This is not good enough per WP:BLP. Until any such news is confirmed, the article should not be changed. Particularly given there have been hoax reports as recently as yesterday (11/29). Resolute 03:07, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Us Weekly has confirmed, as per WPBLP, i think this confirms the news.

DIED 11/30/13

Us Weekly cites TMZ. 67.170.7.37 (talk) 03:13, 1 December 2013 (UTC) Alan

IT'S LEGIT, ABC NEWS confirms it. It will be soon picked up by major news sites/outlets. RIP. 91.215.78.93 (talk) 03:14, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

His official twitter has confirmed it: https://twitter.com/RealPaulWalker 24.87.73.167 (talk) 03:16, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Facebook Page confirms death

It is with a truly heavy heart that we must confirm that Paul Walker passed away today in a tragic car accident while attending a charity event for his organization Reach Out Worldwide. He was a passenger in a friend's car, in which both lost their lives. We appreciate your patience as we too are stunned and saddened beyond belief by this news. Thank you for keeping his family and friends in your prayers during this very difficult time. We will do our best to keep you apprised on where to send condolences. - #TeamPW (from his Facebook page) HPPavG6 (talk) 03:19, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Also his verified Twitter account: https://twitter.com/RealPaulWalker/status/406984510367350784 201.52.67.4 (talk) 03:23, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Dead

Paul Walker - dead at 40 after crashing his Porshe into a tree. Death(11/30/2013) http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/paul-walker-dies-crash-report-article-1.1533786

Sheanzyy (talk) 03:20, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Please add information about Paul Walker's death on November 30, 2013 in a car crash in Santa Clarita. Here is one news report about it among many: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/paul-walker-dies-crash-report-article-1.1533786

Lawprof80 (talk) 03:21, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I'd question TMZ. As for Facebook make sure it's not a comment someone posted. NintendoFan (Talk, Contribs) 03:22, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

You should probably read the comments before you comment yourself. It's his official facebook page.

You guys are really fucking sad. Maybe try to get confirmation before you ruin a guy's life. There is not a single source that actually confirms his death yet. http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/fast-furious-star-paul-walker-killed-crash/story?id=21059278 216.36.9.149 (talk) 03:26, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Someone showed where the report is word-for-word exactly the same as a number of Paul Walker death hoaxes published beginning 13 years ago. I'm researching but can't find anything that confirms absolutely and verifiably one way or the other. His FB page is not necessarily authentic.Medleystudios72 (talk) 03:27, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Reliable sources are stating that he died. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/paul-walker-dies-crash-report-article-1.1533786 MilesMoney (talk) 03:28, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Yup "nydailynews" sounds pretty legit.

One of his reps has confirmed.

He's dead. Sorry. http://variety.com/2013/film/people-news/obituaries-people-news/paul-walker-dead-1200904389/ MilesMoney (talk) 03:29, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Under section Death, add 71.192.224.214 (talk) 03:29, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

NY Daily News says he was killed in an automobile crash.[1] ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:30, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

http://www.al.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2013/11/fast_and_the_furious_actor_pau.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.125.213.242 (talk) 03:32, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Chloemotlagh123 (talk) 03:33, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

"A spokeswoman for the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department could not confirm the identities of the two victims nor confirm the cause of the accident.

"Authorities said they responded to the crash at about 3:30 p.m. PT in the 28300 block of Rye Canyon Loop and found the car engulfed in flames. The victims were pronounced dead at the scene. The sheriff’s department said the L.A. County Coroner’s Office would determine the victims’ identities and cause of death."

At this time the prudent thing to do is hold for 24 to 48 hours until real confirmation is obtained. The above quote is from the 'proof' link given prior. Until the coronor confirms or Paul Walker himself appears somewhere saying it's a hoax, we really are spinning wheels and wasting edits and energy. So again, I recommend applying the brakes for just a little bit and refrain from letting this turn into an edit war. Medleystudios72 (talk) 03:36, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

References

Years active (on the right, in the box). It's not 2014, it's 2013.

Years active (on the right, in the box). It's not 2014, it's 2013. Johnspofford (talk) 03:48, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Confirmed to meet WP:RS

The story has now been confirmed by the following sources.

• CNN
• CBC
• BBC
• TIME
• LA Times
• Reuters
• ABC News
• Rolling Stone
• UK Daily Mail
• Los Angeles Times

It's time for the community to leave the 'hoax' discussions and collect the most reliable information possible. Mkdw^talk 04:01, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Death

It appears like TMZ has indeed posted an article "Paul Walker Dead at 40 In Fiery Car Crash" which has not yet been retracted (been an hour).

http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/30/paul-walker-dead-dies-car-accident-fatal-fire-crash/

Unfortunately there are currently no secondary sources to back that claim up therefore not suitable to show up on Wikipedia at such time.

CyberXRef^talk 02:36, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

A follow-up, the NY Daily News is now also reporting the story,

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/paul-walker-dies-crash-report-article-1.1533786

However, they are using TMZ as a source, thus still 1 independent source.

CyberXRef^talk 02:48, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Possible second source http://www.signalscv.com/section/36/article/109902/ OSUBrit 03:02, 1 December 2013 (UTC) All that source says is "might have been" and "unconfirmed". --| Uncle Milty | talk | 03:05, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

ABC News posted on twitter "@ABC News confirms "Fast and Furious" star Paul Walker has died at the age of 40"

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/406982581293678593

No news article was posted though

CyberXRef^talk 03:18, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Confirmed

https://twitter.com/RealPaulWalker/status/406984510367350784

OSUBrit (talk) 03:17, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Died in car crash on November 30th 2016

198.210.126.178 (talk) 02:37, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Paul Walker died at the age of 40 on November 30 2013 after he was involved in a single-car accident and explosion in Southern California. The Porsche GT he was in slammed into a post and then burst into flames. Paul and another person who was in the car were both killed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.93.130.196 (talk) 02:40, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

death : November 30,2013 108.217.144.45 (talk) 02:41, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I forget what the death section said exactly, but I think the last sentence should be changed to how you worded it. The "people" thing just leaves an awkward taste in my mouth. 76.221.158.199 (talk) 04:06, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Friend identified as Roger Rodas

The second person in the car was Roger Rodas. http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/entertainment&id=9344668

Rodas was Walker's financial adviser and a fellow racing enthusiast. http://www.wealthmanagement.ml.com/wm/pages/ArticleViewer.aspx?TITLE=Call-to-Action 76.170.97.25 (talk) 05:36, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Mkdw^talk 05:40, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I think you jumped the gun on that. The Event organizers are not reliable for such information and the second source just gives info on the person and is not a source to confirm their death. I think that should be removed as a BLP violation at the moment.--Mark Miller (talk) 05:44, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't see how the event organizers are any less reliable than his publicist for "confirming" their deaths since technically no coroners report has come out for both. What they do both have are reliable sources willing to say they feel reasonably sure that their sources are accurate enough for reporting. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a BLP violation though. Mkdw^talk 05:58, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, if you don't see how that looks like simple gossip and that there might be issues with it....alrighty then. I have edited to be clear.--Mark Miller (talk) 06:03, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I think the fact that it was confirmed between a news outlet and the organizers directly makes a difference. It doesn't make it fool proof, after all that whole Lara Logan-CNN-Benghazi report is recent in the news, but I think the changes you made were good. Mkdw^talk 06:08, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but that is not confirmation until it is released by officials or representatives for the subject. The event organizers are not an official verification in any stretch and I generally find such information to be little more than gossip.--Mark Miller (talk) 06:17, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

From Yahoo news[2]: "The identity of the second victim, a male, has not been released by authorities; but numerous reports have identified the driver as Roger Rodas, the owner of Walker's auto-racing team, Always Evolving." I think we are jumping the gun on this.--Mark Miller (talk) 06:38, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

There are multiple reliable sources publishing Roger Rodas: The Hollywood Reporter, Los Angeles Daily News, and KABC-TV. dissolve^talk 06:50, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

And none of them have confirmed information.--Mark Miller (talk) 07:21, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

It is probably not something to worry too much about. But I tend to be a little more of a stickler with BLP information. I assume that it wouldn't be printed if it didn't have some basis in fact. Time will tell, but it is more than likely accurate and "more than likely" seems to be enough for Wikipedia.--Mark Miller (talk) 07:33, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Mormon category

Per Wikipedia policy on living-persons biographies, the "Mormon actors" category has been removed unless and until a citation can be provided. -Porlob 20:36, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

 Done — Fine to leave removed. There are other references but not too favorable [RIP, rest in peace.] "Paul Walker of the Fast and Furious movies admitted to USA Today in 2005 that he was raised Mormon, but stopped adhering to the 'no alcohol, no premarital sex' values years ago. 'I still hold myself accountable,' he told USA Today. 'I'm not the kind of guy who's taking advantage of my position. I could be sleeping with a different 18-year-old girl every day if I wanted to. But that's not my speed.' Walker has a 14-year-old daughter from a past relationship." — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:15, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Expiry date?

This article is currently semi-protected, but there's no expiry date set. Can somebody please fix that? 69.122.190.4 (talk) 17:59, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Check the log, "expiry date" is December 4, 2013. — Bill william compton^Talk 18:12, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Driver of the car

If it is known, the driver of the car should be specified (in the "Death" section). Was it Rodas or was it Walker? This should be mentioned in the article. Presently, it does not state who the driver was. (I believe I heard that Rodas was the driver.) If left unstated, it could infer that Walker was the driver or that officials don't know who was driving. This needs clarification. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:04, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I added this statement – and its source – into the article: Rodas was believed to be driving the car.[3]. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 23:26, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Lede

A reader comment asked if the lede (they say "introduction") could be expanded. Thoughts?--Mark Miller (talk) 23:50, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

It's OK. But, it probably should include a brief sentence about his death, I believe. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 00:22, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Very good point.--Mark Miller (talk) 00:29, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Recent death template

Let's go ahead and leave the recent death template for now. According to this, the circumstances surrounding the crash are still under investigation: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-paul-walker-death-fiery-crash-investigation-20131201,0,7509895.story

The text of the template reads: "Some information, such as the circumstances of the person's death *and surrounding events*, may change as more facts become known." (Emphasis added.) It's fairly certain that the crash was the cause of the death, but the cause of the crash and other surrounding events are not yet completely clear. -Helvetica (talk) 02:06, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Missing Music Video

As far as I know, Paul Walker's wiki page is missing at least one music video. That would be 2001 Ja Rule - Furious. R.I.P Paul Walker. Brian3284275 (talk) 07:07, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Death hoax

This isn't being reported by any reputable sources because en.mediamass.net/people/paul-walker/deathhoax.html it is a HOAX. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 02:47, 1 December 2013 (UTC) Not necessary. http://www.signalscv.com/section/36/article/109902/ AccrualLife (talk) 02:59, 1 December 2013 (UTC) Apparently there was a hoax floating around yesterday. Sadly he died this afternoon after the original hoax. The site your referencing, is the unreputable one. RIP Paul Walker

Read the Signal site again. No one has confirmed that it was Walker was in the car. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 03:03, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm not denying that, I was just stating it is likely the hoax is a hoax, notice no reputable source has been able to verify his health and wellness, which by this time and with a hoax this big is telling.

I wasn't deny that either. I was pointing out that it's no more reliable to say it is a hoax. AccrualLife (talk) 03:22, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

'Conspiracy' is more interesting (to some) than 'Hoax' by far. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 20:34, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Paul Walker's death a hoax

Hate to say it, but even Wikipedia has gotten trapped into declaring Paul Walker's death. It has been revealed that he's alive and well and that he's become the victim of a hoax:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/cruel-satire-site-reports-that-early-report-of-paul-walkers-death-is-a-hoax/

You misread that story. Mediate is saying that the story claiming Walker's death on 11/29 was a hoax is itself a hoax. Mediamass is a satirical website, and was evidently trying to make a statement about easily people buy what they read in the media. I'd say they succeeded beyond their wildest expectations in this regard. Resolute 03:44, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

first of all, newcomers, STOP MAKING SECTIONS ABOUT HIS DEATH, let's keep it in one place, shall we? Secondly, he is. Look up every major news outlet. There is an irony here. Yes, there was a hoax yesterday, but it turns out to be true today. RIP ' 91.215.78.93 (talk) 03:40, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

2001:558:6007:98:1958:35:7BA:DD0 (talk) 03:36, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

His twitter confirms his death

https://twitter.com/RealPaulWalker

Imperi (talk) 03:37, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I recall the complaints about the alleged "unreliability" of TMZ on the day Michael Jackson died. Guess which one was right. Hint: It wasn't the complainants. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:48, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Yeah. So reliable --| Uncle Milty | talk | 03:51, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

How often do they get death notices wrong? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:58, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Fact of the matter reamins that TMZ could be accurate, but we can't say with 100% certainty they are. They're a tabloid service first and foremost. Just because a blind squirrel got a nut, it doesn't mean you can fully rely on them. For hours now, other reliable sources have both cited TMZ as their only source and also admitted that authorities have not confirmed the victims' identities. There's just enough to keep the veracity of TMZ's report in question. They could just as easily be mistaken about anything they report. The more recent updates lead me to believe the story more, but it's still not 100% fool proof. His reps updating his FB and Twitter could even be mistaken. We should exercise some responcibility ourselves and just be patient for a little longer. That's my recommendation. Medleystudios72 (talk) 03:53, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

CNN is reporting it,[4] so they're taking it as fact. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:55, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I see that. CNN is quoting verbatim what I've read in the other articles too. Which is not unheard of. I'm advocating leaving the death date in at this time and not removing it unless everyone ends up with egg on their faces. Medleystudios72 (talk) 03:57, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

It appears to have been confirmed. [5].--Mark Miller (talk) 04:01, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

At this point all his official social media outlets would have had to been hacked and his offical spokespersons lying.50.148.10.74 (talk) 04:01, 1 December 2013 (UTC)rip paul we will all miss you

So, it turns out that TMZ got it right after all. Not too bad, for an "unreliable" source. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:11, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Some people are just in denial of reality. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 20:36, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Edit request

Wasn't traffic collision his driver crashed into a lamp post 92.23.62.36 (talk) 19:00, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

The pictures from UK Daily Mail showed a lamp post hole in the ground (as if knocked over) and the demolished sports car pile by two trees. Is it important? — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 20:41, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Edit request

66.227.121.70 (talk) 22:09, 2 December 2013 (UTC) Paul was on a national geographic channel show called Shark Men - Size Matters.

This story is still evolving. There are reports that he and his driver might have been drag-racing. If so, that would put a somewhat different twist on it (aside from the common ground, that he's dead either way.) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:51, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Granfather Irish Billy Walker?

The article has long identified his grandfather as boxer Irish Billy Walker. Now JoyRiderProdz (talk · contribs) has linked to the article Billy Walker (boxer). First of all, the source does not name the grandfather. Secondly, Billy Walker (boxer) names his children but does not identify Walker's father (Paul William Walker III) as the son of the boxer. The grandfather's name should be removed entirely. 24.163.36.99 (talk) 00:05, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Edit request

Death couldn't have been by 'Drag Racing', seeing as there was no drag strip, so that detail is unnecessary in the main profile box. 99.195.161.28 (talk) 00:00, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

You don't need a drag strip to do drag racing. However, there seems to be no current evidence for this being a drag race. I have removed that from the infobox, as it's currently misleading. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 00:15, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Edit Request: December 3

 Done

Should be added to: Category:Filmed deaths of entertainers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.73.23.229 (talk) 22:21, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

"4"

 Done
Since his father is frequently listed in TV interviews as "Paul Walker III", Paul Walker IV should redirect here. -- 70.50.148.105 (talk) 10:57, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Personal life

There is nothing about his current long-time girl-friend under his personal life and they, according to internent reports, have been dating for seven years. Would be nice to have some stuff added in about her as she is his girlfriend of seven years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.227.202.121 (talk) 18:10, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

And the controversy around how she was significantly younger than him — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:9:3500:1D9:D431:14E7:319D:5B26 (talk) 02:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Video from his memorial service

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2888458100001/remembering-paul-walker-vin-diesel-speaks-at-memorial/?intcmp=obnetwork — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 14:33, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

For now, I've put the short video clip in 'External references' — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 14:44, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
— — — Let's evaluate later (for better video tributes.)

Reader feedback: The coroner has yet to Ident...

142.162.227.120 posted this comment on 2 December 2013 (view all feedback).

The coroner has yet to Identify the body of Paul as being one in the car. As such, he should not be announced dead on here until he can be identified. News sources cite the Coroner, stating that the bodies in the car were so badly burned that they had to ask for dental records to ID them, and that the process would take days. http://www.tmz.com/2013/12/01/paul-walker-body-unidentifiable-autopsy/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_S0QnjNSU0

Any thoughts? Ridiculous! There are photos and video of Paul getting into the car that crashed minutes later around 3:30 p.m. PDT.. His family, publicist, and official twitter account confirmed by 6 p.m. PDT, that Paul was the passenger and pronounced dead at the scene.

Catsue (talk) 03:55, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes. There's no question who was in the car, and that they're both dead. The coroner just needs to provide a positive ID for each one, as the car was an inferno. And it would be kind of embarrassing to flip-flop and bury the guys under the wrong stones. Hence the ID. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 06:36, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

How does one comment directly to a "feedback" comment? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 14:59, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

(1) Go to the top of TALK; You will see "Talk:Paul Walker From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia View reader feedback"; (2) Click; (3) Scroll down; (4) Find the comment of your interest, and click on it; (5) on the right, click review comment. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:45, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

(A) Click on view all comments; (B) Those that have already been reviewed need not be reviewed again (by WP editors); (C) Select an important one of your choosing and choose if it is unimportant, requires no action, important, etc, and you can then add a comment. I like to encourage readers to become editors. It is thought that talk should mainly occur via the auxiliary TALK page. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:58, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

What I'm looking for is a straightforward way to notify the poster that he's misunderstanding what the coroner's office is doing. Thanks for the info, I'll take a look later. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 18:54, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

OK, I tried to follow it. It doesn't make sense. I can't click on a given comment. Maybe that requires a particular privilege? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 23:18, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm going to try 'reviewing' again and re-answer your question—it may be of interest to others. This is also new usage to me. As I recall how I did this successfully a few days ago, I go to the reader section (feedback from non-editors) and browse down the new comments. When I want to add a review, I click on the right and optionally add a comment. Little is known if the reader will ever see the comment/review, IMHO. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:01, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Here is new correspondence (My review in the reader section)

• 59.180.156.204 ED: Not useful.
• My comment: “What were you looking for?”
• Review categories are: {Useful, Resolved, No-action-needed, Inappropriate}
• 122.58.129.97 did not find what they were looking for.2 hours ago
• who is paul walkers girl friend? I marked as ‘useful’.

Of 139 posts 66% found what they were looking for. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:22, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Find the 'reader review' section-link at the top of the TALK page.

PS: As is often the case, the reader did not read. The Article has the following: "He and Rebecca McBrain,[22] a one-time girlfriend,[23] had a daughter[24] who lived with her mother in Hawaii for 13 years and then moved to California to live with Walker in 2011."  Done — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:45, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Vehicle did not immediately burst into flames

It should be noted that smoke started to rise from the car one minute after it hit the tree. Then it took another minute until it started to burn. (can bee seen in the surveillance video). Ich901 (talk) 20:18, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/04/us/walker-death-questions/index.html

It took about a minute for smoke and fire to rise from the car. Where there is that much smoke, there is fire. But exactly what is your point? Is this related to 9/11 is some way? =//= Johnny Squeaky 22:44, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

In theory, if someone were right there, somehow, they might have been able to pull him from the car and revive. The coroner's report said he died from smoke and flame inhalation. That's the only real significance of it, except for some possible conspiracy theory as you say. The question I'd like to see answered is why they were doing 100 MPH on a city street. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 17:01, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

No, the coroner's report did not say he died from smoke and flame inhalation. It said he died from a combination of trauma and smoke/fire. =//= Johnny Squeaky 21:14, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Fine, but the point is that he was theoretically alive for a short time after the crash. If he was dead, he wouldn't have inhaled smoke. In contrast with the driver, who was considered to have died on impact, as he didn't inhale any smoke. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:25, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Walker lost control of the vehicle or vehicle lost control by itself?

The article reads: the vehicle lost control... Did it really? Or did the driver lose control of the vehicle? And who was driving? Why blame the vehicle? It's either Walker's or the accountant's fault. 186.15.152.217 (talk) 05:50, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

The reports were saying he was a passenger. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 06:40, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I assume it's vague because, from what I've read so far, the identity of the driver and the cause of the crash haven't been released yet. Because of that, it's a possibility that the vehicle malfunctioned. We can't accurately say either at this point. TCMemoire (talk) 06:53, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

It could be a combination. That particular car is reportedly very difficult to handle at high speed. So unless it accelerated by itself, Walker's friend (the driver) put them in jeopardy by pushing the speed up to the 80-90 mph range (current estimate) on a city street. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 14:43, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Please change "was killed" to "died" Kroeckx (talk) 13:18, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Yeah, I too think that dead is much better than killed. Anyway I changed that. --Pratyya ^(Hello!) 14:08, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Paul Walker confirmed dead

Sadly, this does not appear to be a hoax at all.

• http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Two-People-Die-in-Fiery-Valencia-Crash-233951801.html--Mark Miller (talk) 04:13, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
• http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=9344668

On November 30, 2013, at roughly 3:30 PM (PST), Walker and a companion were driving in Valencia, Santa Clarita, California, when the red Porsche sports car they were in swung out of control and crashed into a light pole and tree.[29] The car immediately exploded and burst into flames.[30][31][32] The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s department declared two deceased at the scene"

to : " On November 30, 2013, at roughly 3:30 PM (PST), Walker was the passenger in his Porsche GT when the car lost control and crashed into a tree on Rye Canyon Loop in Valencia, Ca (Lat/Lon: 34.453321, -118.578935, 25601 Hercules St., Valencia, CA 91355-5051). Upon impact the vehicle immediately burst into flames, killing both the driver and Walker. Both were pronounced dead at the scene. Walker was attending a charity event for his organization Reach Out Worldwide when Walker had been taking friends out for test drives in the Porsche GT. The accident occurred on one such ride."

This gives a much more detailed and accurate account of the event.

Kit600ana (talk) 04:22, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

"Peace Officers of California" is claiming this was a friends car. I cannot confirm this however. Does anyone have the information in a reliable source?--Mark Miller (talk) 04:45, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Entertainment Weekly is reporting this as a friends car. [6].--Mark Miller (talk) 04:48, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

From FoxNews:
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/12/01/fast-and-furious-actor-paul-walker-dies-in-car-crash/
Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 04:50, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

That does not clarify the ownership issue.--Mark Miller (talk) 04:54, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Confirmed through the statement released by his representatives. This was a friends car.--Mark Miller (talk) 04:57, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

CNN as well is reporting this as a friends vehicle.--Mark Miller (talk) 05:05, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Please change "light pole" to "lamp post" Antichrist84 (talk) 05:01, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Technically they're called street lights but the news source says light pole. Mkdw^talk 05:15, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

 Not done as stated above, both sources are using the term "light pole". Which is accurate as the car didn't hit the "Street lamp" or "light" itself, but the pole that supports it.--Mark Miller (talk) 05:17, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Approximate coordinates: (34°27′11.8398″N 118°34′44.706″W)

Latest reports say the sports car hit the light pole and then the tree. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 11:04, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Role Of Porsche Carrera GT In Walker's Death

There is a clear misunderstanding being promulgated in the press about the car Walker was in. Reporting on Wikipedia and other car sources show that the Porsche is one of the fastest-braking cars in the world with better traction than almost any car available at any price. Thus a fatal crash in this car at 45 mph - or really any normal speed limit - is virtually impossible UNLESS the idiots driving it are trying to do something like "drift" a 600 hp racing car. This is something both of these men knew better than to do.

This car isn't "tricky" to drive at normal speeds. Hell, you don't even have to shift it past second gear to go the legal limit.

At any rate, I think Wikipedia is the place to balance the coverage of this truly SENSELESS tragedy Dlawbailey (talk) 05:27, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

80-90 mph on a city street is not a "normal" speed. Whether the Porsche can handle that or not is another question. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 06:34, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

In my opinion, the Porsche could easily handle that speed but not the light post and then the tree. We won't know what happened. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 11:07, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Reader feedback: Add a brief story, Paul Walker, Young/Restless TV star

To WP editors: You can click on 'Reader Feedback' at either the Article-page or the TALK-page. Here is the one featured comment: 65.94.29.113 posted this comment on 7 December 2013 (view all feedback).

"I would like to know, a brief story that Paul Walker (Brandon Collins) played on Y.and R? I can't remember his role on that show.

Any thoughts? Y&R stands for TV 'Young and Restless' and a Google-search yields:
http://boards.soapcentral.com/showthread.php?920574-Sad-news-Paul-Walker-(ex-Brandon-Collins)-dead-at-40-in-tragic-crash
Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:29, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Consider the following fan paragraph found in SoapCentral: "I'll try to write a synopsis of how his role went on Y&R as a little tribute:

"Victor did not approve of his teen age daughter Victoria (Heather Tom) dating an older man, Ryan McNeil (Scott Reeves) so he tried to set her up with a business client's teen aged son she went to school with named Brandon (Paul Walker). She protested saying that he was a geek in school. Low and behold, one night she came home to find her father Victor had a surprise waiting for her: the boy named Brandon he was trying to set her up with. Of course, it was obvious from Brandon's excited look that he had a crush on her so all Vickie could do was to keep from being rude. It was to her horror though to find out that her father Victor had already set up for her and Brandon to go, not just on a date but to prom together. Then Victoria makes plans of her own just to get out from under her father's scoping eye on prom night. She agrees to go with Brandon but has secret plans to see Ryan McNeil instead.

"Later, Vickie makes further secret plans to elope with Ryan somehow getting past the under-age factor and uses Brandon as a decoy in her plan. He thinks she's going out of town to be with him but she only used him to get Victor to approve the trip since he trusted the clean cut kid. Only when they get to the hotel room out of town, Brandon is shocked to find Ryan there and that she plans to marry the guy. Brandon does his best to talk her out of it to no avail ... but Vickie begs the kid not to tell her father. Somehow Victor found out (I can't recall of it was from Brandon or not) and all hell broke loose with Victor having Ryan arrested for marrying his underage daughter.

"I want to say all of that took about the whole Summer to play out and I think after that was the end of Paul Walker as Brandon on the show

"R.I.P. Paul Walker" (From a fan at Boards.SoapCentral.com) — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:48, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

car speed

Were they driving with 90 or 100 mph?

There are several sources that claim that the police said, they were drving with 100 mph and not 90mph. Ich901 (talk) 19:34, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/12/paul-walker-death-cops-believe-car-doing-100-miles-per-hour/

http://www.ibtimes.com/paul-walkers-death-fast-furious-stars-fatal-accident-highlights-dark-side-street-racing-1493178

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/celebrity/2013-12/03/content_17147683.htm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2516403/Paul-Walker-STREET-RACE-died-fireball-crash.html

Does the car have a data computer that records this info, and if so was it recovered? Otherwise, I'd say 90 or 100 is an estimate, either of which could be right or wrong. =//= Johnny Squeaky 20:38, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Death Section Content

Is this paragraph appropriately located:

Rodas and Walker became friends after meeting at a race track. Rodas became Walker's financial adviser in 2007 and helped to establish Reach Out Worldwide.[41] Rodas was the CEO of Always Evolving, a Valencia high-end vehicle performance shop owned by Walker.

While they were friends, they were friends long before the accident. Their friendship is tangent to the accident, I think it would be more appropriate in a different section. =//= Johnny Squeaky 18:20, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

I reorganized the sentences in the paragraph to separate the events of the accident from Rodas' relationship with Walker. I now see these sentences were moved to the the Personal life section, right above the Death section, which is fine. Anyone who wants to know who Rodas is doesn't have far to look to find out. GoingBatty (talk) 19:20, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Feedback section hidden

Please stop hiding the Feedback feature. Checkingfax (talk) 03:32, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Why? I am not aware of any rule or guideline that states it must be maintained. WWGB (talk) 03:36, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Because someone asked you? Apparently there are those that want it. =//= Johnny Squeaky 03:54, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

paul, i love cars but you are a driver of fast cars i am 8 years old, grade two student my name is Marl Ysaac C. Atienza — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.2.43.208 (talk) 01:54, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Browse around and enjoy Wikipedia. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 05:02, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Reader feedback: need HQ picture of him

Georgethewriter posted this comment on 7 December 2013 (view all feedback).

need HQ picture of him

Any thoughts?

Faizannehal (talk) 09:44, 10 December 2013 (UTC) hey, we cannot put any picture we want we can only put those pics which are licensed and those kind of pics are in very few number on internet.

Currently, there are four pictures (about the right number) and there are links to other Wikipedia articles and external websites for more pictures/videos. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 04:01, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Reader feedback: There should be a section de...

216.165.95.73 posted this comment on 9 December 2013 (view all feedback).

There should be a section devoted entirely to his charitable activities.

Any thoughts? I think it'll be a great idea.

TheEpTic (talk) 12:50, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

haylie dorsey

How did it happen and the table at the back is not the same]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.185.178.123 (talk) 15:34, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

What exactly are you asking or requesting? Which table? There's no "Haylie Dorsey" mentioned in the article, so it's hard to gather your intention. Chaheel Riens (talk) 16:44, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Also a Google search does not turn up any notable Haylie Dorseys, and none in connection to Walker. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Inspector General ‖ 17:10, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 December 2013

Grammar correction: In the "Death" section, "buried in an non-denominational ceremony" should be changed to "buried in a non-denominational ceremony." Jmvizanko (talk) 03:20, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for pointing that out. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 03:35, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2013

It has been noted under 'Personal Life' Paul Walker and Jamine Pilchard Gosnell were planning to marry. There is no factual basis behind this/ and no evidence supporting this. Secondly the referencesprovided are dubious sources which do not actually quote any specifc person or event that they had planned to marry, for example Reference number 28 takes you to an article that the author simply writes "some reports stating that the pair had planned to get married." Reference 27, again the author makes numerous statements yet does not actually quote anyone or any event. In fact most reports indicated they were no longer together as there are no recent photographs taken of them together and Paul Walker had attended his brothers recent wedding alone. As there is no facts or reliable sources I believe this statement should be removed.

101.169.42.143 (talk) 02:07, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

• Not done: This request was archived before it could be answered, but I would think that you would need to better format your request as please change x to y and offer some links to your reliable sources. Thank you for your interest in editing the English Wikipedia. Technical 13 (talk) 00:47, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Fast & Furious (movie) Seven

QUOTE: 'He'd want you to know first': Vin Diesel announces release date for Fast & Furious 7 as he posts a picture of his final scene with Paul Walker By DAILY MAIL REPORTER PUBLISHED: 23:41 EST, 22 December 2013 | UPDATED: 07:17 EST, 23 December 2013

• http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2528235/Vin-Diesel-announces-release-date-Fast-Furious-7-posts-picture-final-scene-Paul-Walker.html

His younger brother may fill in (distant shots). -- FYI, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:04, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

"Irish"

There seems to be no evidence for his having Irish ancestry. The article states that it is "possible." Anything is "possible". In the archive of the talk page there is a suggestion that he is descended from the "Irish" boxer Billy Walker, who is in fact English. Much as it may pain the Irish brigade not to have a claim on a popular, successful character such as Walker, there appears to be no basis at all for such a claim, so both the reference to his "possible" Irish background and the "Americans of Irish descent" category at the bottom of the page should be deleted. Shiresman (talk) 03:55, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 December 2013

he is not dead. "http://nodisinfo.com/Home/30227/#prettyPhoto" Kelkstar (talk) 05:30, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. That's going to take a better source than that. Mlpearc (open channel) 02:47, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Who are the authorities of information as is accepted consensually

Corruption happens. It exists. It occurs within one or more humans. The ease of which any one or more humans can lie, deceive, or otherwise misappropriate a given situation, gives way to the idea of which organized efforts compromising of several humans acting in a collective effort, can potentially undermine and compromised the integral security of history as is known by a majority of humans.

Courteous of Edward Snowden, it has been fairly consensually realized that Internet security needs to be improved so that it is more difficult for organizations such as the NSA to so easily and cheaply harvest all the information of all the humans. Similarly, there should be improvements to more important structures than the Internet with which misinformation is spread through corrupted organizations and other negligences.

The nature in which Wikipedia declares that Paul Walker is dead offers a sense of authority, but in which the authority is questionably unreliable.

The evolution of organized efforts to apply theatrics to any given situation and to be plausibly accepted by a largely unconcerned society of humans in a maliciously or intentionally corrupted fashion increasingly is rather inexpensive to do. This should not be the case. Just like the NSA should not have such an easy time to monitor all Internet traffic of all humans, no organization or human should have such an easy time to lie or deceive in such a irresponsible fashion.

If I am able to invest vast amounts of money into equipment and organizational efforts to produce the same effects to lie to large quantity of humans and escape any further reality (living life as an assumed dead human) is it well or wise that I do so? VkhMpLzWUbYFcWAT (talk) 07:48, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Please provide reliable sources that Walker is still alive. Since all known reliable sources say he is dead. The rest of your commentary does not seem to be germaine to improving the Paul Walker article. Thank you. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 15:05, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 January 2014

DEATH (replace report from People Magazine with the following reflecting coroner's finding including that no drugs or alcohol were involved-)

The coroner’s report stated that the 2005 Porsche Carrera GT may have been traveling at speeds up to 100mph / 160 kph before the crash. The coroner's report further stated that no alcohol or drugs were found in the systems of either man. Cialdarmo (talk) 21:14, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Done Mlpearc (open channel) 05:20, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Paul Walker planning to marry

Please remove statement: 'Prior to his death, the couple had planned to marry.'

There are no reliable sources to indicate that they had planned to marry; the sources currently provided in Wikipedia <reference #27 & #28> are gossip columns and unreliable sources. 101.168.213.79 (talk) 08:24, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

 Done - thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 14:14, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

"Death"

Edit request for 1 minor point to be corrected.

Ownership of the vehicle.

At the time of the accident the red 2005 Porsche Carrera GT did NOT belong to Rodas. "Jim Torp said the red Porsche Carrera GT had already been sold, so they wouldn’t have been reckless with it." http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/paul-walker-dead-driver-roger-2877650

A second source is provided. "The Porsche, along with another car, had already been sold, so the men were not going out to be reckless, he said." http://articles.latimes.com/2013/dec/02/local/la-me-ln-paul-walker-crash-street-racing-20131202

IF the article continues to read that Rodas owned the vehicle, then a citation is needed that show that the red 2005 Porsche Carrera GT DID belong to Rodas.

Ammobox (talk) 20:35, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2014

Filmography is missing a movie. The 2006 "The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift". IMDb http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0463985/ 76.24.40.246 (talk) 11:52, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Not done: That's because he wasn't in it. Chaheel Riens (talk) 12:00, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2014

2006

Fast and Furious: Tokyo drift

Brian O'Conner

91.156.211.65 (talk) 16:27, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

 Not done It appears from the table in List of The Fast and the Furious characters that Brian O'Conner was not a character in The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift - However, Wikipedia is not a reliable source, so if you have a reliable source which states that he was a character, please cite it. Arjayay (talk) 16:42, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

This is a duplicate of the question asked above on 9th April. He wasn't in it then either. Chaheel Riens (talk) 18:05, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Thermal injuries

What exactly are "thermal injuries"? Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 21:13, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 November 2014

dcdscscs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.119.27.220 (talk) 16:30, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

"Death"

Edit request for 2 minor points to be corrected and an update.

1) Ownership of the vehicle.

At the time of the accident the red 2005 Porsche Carrera GT did NOT belong to Rodas.

Jim Torp said the red Porsche Carrera GT had already been sold, so they wouldn’t have been reckless with it."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/paul-walker-dead-driver-roger-2877650

A second source confirms that the car did not belong to Rodas.

"The Porsche, along with another car, had already been sold, so the men were not going out to be reckless, he said." http://articles.latimes.com/2013/dec/02/local/la-me-ln-paul-walker-crash-street-racing-20131202

IF the article continues to read that Rodas owned the vehicle, then a citation is needed that show that the red 2005 Porsche Carrera GT - DID belong to Rodas.

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2) The article says "The crash was caught on film by a security camera." There is no mention in any of the sources that it was recorded on FILM. That security camera that most likely recorded on a digital video recorder hard drive or videotape. Modern security cameras do not record to film as they once did for bank robberies.

---

3) Update needed - Two men, Jameson Brooks Witty and Anthony Janow, were arrested for grand theft... ADD THE FOLLOWING: ... pleaded guilty and were sentenced to 6 months in jail. http://www.businessinsider.com/r-six-months-in-jail-for-teen-who-stole-from-car-in-paul-walker-crash-2014-14

Ammobox (talk) 02:09, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

4) Correction/Source required - The sentence "Walker's autopsy showed “scant soot” in his trachea, leading investigators to believe he died before the car caught fire" seems to contradict the statements in e.g., http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/paul-walker-autopsy-report-reveals-actor-horrific-final-moments-article-1.1565527, ".. had “scant soot” in his trachea, suggesting he at least partially inhaled some of the smoke." where, sadly, the latter seems to make more sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.72.41.197 (talk) 18:22, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Religion

Why has his religion been removed? http://www.christianpost.com/news/paul-walker-on-christian-faith-who-couldnt-believe-theres-a-god-109846/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.150.51.98 (talk) 18:09, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Google maps seems to show that speed limit where he died was 35, not 45, unless the speed was dropped after the accident. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.241.170.154 (talk) 14:49, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 April 2015

paul walker didnt die but it said he died.he fake his death Hemanlam123 (talk) 22:30, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

We would need a very reliable reference for that. -- haminoon (talk) 22:41, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Addition to Paul walker page

kindly add a section titled : legacy; as im sure we all agree that he has left behind one of the most inspiring ones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.63.17.18 (talk) 00:01, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Minor error in his film roles

He reprised his role of Brian O'Connor in five of the six sequels, not seven, as there are only seven films (currently) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.26.74.164 (talk) 20:51, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2015

It should say he was in five of the six sequels, not seven sequels (the film series has seven movies total) 70.197.76.61 (talk) 23:59, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Done by Crboyer. Stickee (talk) 00:06, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2015

Add See You Again to music videos. 184.71.31.162 (talk) 17:13, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

 Done - although some may argue he didn't perform in the video as the scenes were from Furious 7 - Arjayay (talk) 17:28, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2015

120.57.183.173 (talk) 12:12, 17 April 2015 (UTC) see you again was first sung by an indian siddhant bhardwaj

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Kharkiv07^Talk 13:13, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

EDIT & UPDATE REQUEST

Edit request for 2 minor points to be corrected and an update.

1) Ownership of the vehicle. At the time of the accident the red 2005 Porsche Carrera GT did NOT belong to Rodas. "Jim Torp said the red Porsche Carrera GT had already been sold, so they wouldn’t have been reckless with it." http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/paul-walker-dead-driver-roger-2877650

A second source confirms that the car did not belong to Rodas. "The Porsche, along with another car, had already been sold, so the men were not going out to be reckless, he said." http://articles.latimes.com/2013/dec/02/local/la-me-ln-paul-walker-crash-street-racing-20131202

IF the article continues to read that Rodas owned the vehicle, then a citation is needed that show that the red 2005 Porsche Carrera GT - DID belong to Rodas.

2) The article says "The crash was caught on film by a security camera." There is no mention in any of the sources that it was recorded on FILM. Modern security cameras do not record to film as they once did for bank robberies. That security camera that most likely recorded on a digital video recorder hard drive or videotape.

3) Update needed - Two men, Jameson Brooks Witty and Anthony Janow, were arrested for grand theft... ADD THE FOLLOWING: ... pleaded guilty and were sentenced to 6 months in jail. http://www.businessinsider.com/r-six-months-in-jail-for-teen-who-stole-from-car-in-paul-walker-crash-2014-14

Ammobox (talk) 04:04, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

New details on deadly crash

- car speed was between 80 and 93 mph

- no mechanical problems with the car

- tires were more than 9 years old

- car did have "an aftermarket exhaust system" to make it go faster

-He also ate a multitude of twinkies before the drive itself, and he was in diabetic shock while he was driving, then he crashed and died. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stolenfromxkcd (talk • contribs) 01:39, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/25/showbiz/paul-walker-crash-probe/

Paul Walker has a kid named Meadow Walker, you can add this to the children category — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.37.216 (talk) 22:09, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

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Nonexistent domain?

paulwalker.com redirects to www.roww.org

74.87.38.164 (talk) 03:30, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

removal of blurred image.

As per WP:PERTINENCE "Poor-quality images—​​dark or blurry; showing the subject too small, hidden in clutter, or ambiguous; and so on—​​should not be used"

the above image is quite obviously blurry. therefore, as per MOS/Images, it doesn't get used.

It's not as if there no other images of him on the article. Better to have two decent images, than two decent images and one piece of shit. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 13:26, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Walker at a convention in February 2006

And that, of course, is not the size it's displayed at in the article, is it? It's displayed at a much smaller size, like as at the right. At that size, it's a perfectly reasonable image, for the encyclopedia. So maybe I'm wrong and you're rignt - fine, get a concensus to remove it. BMK (talk) 13:31, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

blurred isn't really an opinion. It's a technical fact. The image has visible blur. I'm sure to someone half-blind, browsing on a crappy phone, it looks ok - but to anyone with decent eyesight and a decent display - it looks like a turd. Anyway, MOS was achieved with consensus, I suggest you go there and change MOS if you disagree with their rules. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 13:35, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Error in information

Wikipedia is known for their reliable sources and almost always perfectly accurate information. To help, I wanted to bring to your attention that there is an error in the information given about which movie Paul walker co-stared with Tyrese Gibson. It is found at the end of the section entitled "Personal Life". The article reads as follows: "Walker was close friends with his The Fast and The Furious co-star Tyrese Gibson.[41][42][43]". This is incorrect information. The the movie in which Tyrese Gibson co-stared alongside Paul Walker was entitled 2 Fast 2 Furious. This is the only movie which both of these actors co-stared exclusively playing the two lead roles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:BCAE:4AF0:6CCF:FFBB:B9CC:E812 (talk) 04:32, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

The referenced court case regarding the crash is not about the case filed by Paul Walker's daughter. That case is still pending. Missjessica254 (talk) 18:00, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Thermal trauma or Crash Impact

The sources of the reasons behind his death are conflicting- 1. Walker died from the combined effects of traumatic and thermal trauma, according to the Los Angeles county coroner's office 2. Walker's autopsy showed "scant soot" in his trachea, leading investigators to believe he died before the car was engulfed in fire

Both these are mentioned in the article. The reason can not include "thermal trauma" if he did not survive the impact even before there was any fire to cause the thermal trauma. 77.12.95.0 (talk) 16:18, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Death - Edit request for 2 minor points to be corrected and 1 update

1) Ownership of the vehicle.

At the time of the accident the red 2005 Porsche Carrera GT did NOT belong to Rodas. "Jim Torp said the red Porsche Carrera GT had already been sold, so they wouldn’t have been reckless with it." http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/paul-walker-dead-driver-roger-2877650

A second source confirms that the car did not belong to Rodas. "The Porsche, along with another car, had already been sold, so the men were not going out to be reckless, he said." http://articles.latimes.com/2013/dec/02/local/la-me-ln-paul-walker-crash-street-racing-20131202

IF the article continues to read that Rodas owned the vehicle, then a citation is needed that show that the red 2005 Porsche Carrera GT - DID belong to Rodas.

2) The article says "The crash was caught on film by a security camera." Please remove "on film" There is no mention in any of the sources that it was recorded on FILM. Modern security cameras do not record to film as they once did for bank robberies. That security camera most likely recorded on a digital video recorder hard drive, internet cloud storage or videotape.

3) Update needed - Two men, Jameson Brooks Witty and Anthony Janow, were arrested for grand theft... ADD THE FOLLOWING: ... pleaded guilty and were sentenced to 6 months in county jail and three years of probation. http://www.businessinsider.com/r-six-months-in-jail-for-teen-who-stole-from-car-in-paul-walker-crash-2014-14 http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-walker-crash-idUSKBN0GF02520140815

Ammobox (talk) 17:15, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Nina Peterson and Meadow Walker

The article cites the children of Paul Walker as Nina Peterson rather than Meadow Walker. Who is Nina Peterson? Why isn't Meadow Walker mentioned in place of Nina Peterson?107.185.145.26 (talk) 03:56, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Reversion

I've just reverted, among others, this edit, which gave Walker's main ancestry as Albanian. The sources provided do not seem reliable (and, on top of that, none are in English), so I rolled back to the last stable version of the page by Cluebot. If anyone takes issue, ping me here and start a discussion. Thanks, Colonel Wilhelm Klink (^Complaints|_Mistakes) 20:05, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 August 2016

--203.121.221.40 (talk) 03:52, 13 August 2016 (UTC)Big textHe had a young daughter named meadow walker.

203.121.221.40 (talk) 03:52, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 05:19, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Height reference

Is this reliable? I would recommend sourcing the original interview cited by the link but no archives around the web I could find. Bluesphere 08:58, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

"See You Again" was also nominated for 3 Grammys

"See You Again" received three nominations at the 58th Annual Grammy Awards. (taken from See You Again wikipedia page) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Derekshue (talk • contribs) 21:59, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

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Statutory rape?

Rather surprised that Walker's dating 16-year-old girls was left out of the article, and it doesn't appear to have been previously discussed either. Is there some reason for this omission?

https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/paul-walker-s-23-year-old-girlfriend-shares-heartbreaking-facebook-post-as-her-father-reveals-she-s-in-grief-counseling-37448/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2518530/Paul-Walkers-girlfriend-Jasmine-Pilchard-Gosnell-makes-emotional-visit-familys-home.html https://jalopnik.com/when-are-we-going-to-address-how-paul-walker-had-relati-1828227580 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.36.73.189 (talk) 00:58, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

A important thing.

Hey Gildir. You missed one opportunity to add his last road "Kelly Johnson Pwy" He actually died there, so. He buried in the older Forest Lawn. R.I.P. Paul William Walker IV. HowSill (talk) 13:49, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

All of this is already in the article. General Ization ^Talk 14:20, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Is NOT only Hercules. It's Kelly Johnson-Hercules.

HowSill (talk) 18:12, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2021

Dwonderwoman2034 (talk) 22:24, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

1) PROZ=Flagz of Our Fatherz

2) CONs=Porche reference words are a curse on Meadow Rain Walkerz future carz from Europe on Wickedpedia

3) CONs=Cody and Caleb are NOT blood related to Paul William Walker I/IV a.k.a. Paul William Majors...Lee Majors and cheryl tiegs SON...one of two...Jesse Lee Soffer is the youngest born in Chicago, Illinois 60088-5257 through Sunshine Children's Home and adopted by Miss Cheryl Crabtree Warlock 1984 after Paul/Saul Walker-Majors was adopted in 1973 from Sunshine Children's Home in Maumee, Ohio 43537.

4) CONs=Artists Cody and Caleb are actually Caleb Cain Walker-Dahlmer, Jeffrey Martin Dahlmer's ill-begotten son born July 01, 1971 in Toledo, Ohio and adopted by Cheryl Ne-Ne Lyn Crabtree Warlock. Cody is Cheryl and Billy Walker-Warlock's biological son.

5) Conned=+The General Audience Public because of the Eight Below connotation after the post-humorous passing of Paul William Walker I/IV regarding his creamatorium ashes being buried "Eight" feet under his burial plot in California. NOT GOOD! A sequeal is necessary Titled: Eight Below II...Eight Below Zero...named after His huskey dog ZERO the Hero wonder dog! Then Nine Below Zero and Ten Below Zero...NO MORE REFERENCES TO HEX STARZ with Oblood of Christ to be buried deeper than Six damned feet "below"!-Dee Mas IMDBPRO.com StarofHolywoodChristians.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Melmann 23:22, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 April 2022

Paul Walker started dating Jasmine Pilchard-Gosnell when he was 33 and she was only 16.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2518530/Paul-Walkers-girlfriend-Jasmine-Pilchard-Gosnell-makes-emotional-visit-familys-home.html 162.211.34.181 (talk) 20:37, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: Daily Mail is not a reliable source. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:46, 14 April 2022 (UTC)'

Two additional sources; please consider making the requested edit: 1. https://www.thethings.com/fans-are-deeply-uncomfortable-about-paul-walkers-relationship-with-jasmine-pilchardgosnell-heres-why/ 2. https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/paul-walker-s-23-year-old-girlfriend-shares-heartbreaking-facebook-post-as-her-father-reveals-she-s-in-grief-counseling-37448/

Date

He was in a 2015 film so he died much much earlier enlisted it could be possible is 2015 but I have suspicions that it was in 2019 or 2020 146.199.240.70 (talk) 14:49, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Reliable sources establish that he was no longer living when the 2015 film came out. Larry Hockett (Talk) 15:04, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 September 2022

May I please edit the box RyanXXII (talk) 23:25, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: requests for decreases to the page protection level should be directed to the protecting admin or to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection if the protecting admin is not active or has declined the request. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:26, 20 September 2022 (UTC)