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Pat Ament's wish to "clean up the mess"

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The subject of the article has expressed frustration with what he believes to be errors in the article. I hereby offer to listen to his concerns and try to improve the article. Jim Heaphy (talk) 05:44, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Very generous of you, Jim. But, I expect you should state exactly how this can take place. For instance, if it was me, I would have Pat post here to the talk page with each specific item, and also provide a reference/citation for it. Ratagonia (talk) 01:33, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ratagonia, I've had some back & forth discussion by email with Pat Ament and have made it clear that any assertion needs to written from a neutral point of view, and substantiated with references. The ball is in his court right now. I will revise the article whether or not he decides to offer input, but I want to give him a chance to think about it. Jim Heaphy (talk) 22:43, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]